99 merc 4.3 efi temp gage erratic

slyrydr

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99 searay sundancer cruiser, dual 4.3 efi, alpha outdrives..190 hrs total, stored mostly but ran once or twice a year....i bought it and went through it completely, from outdrive pumps to everything on engine, plugs, wires, fuel systems, filters etc...was having a bit of vapor lock down at Lake Powell, pretty normal for down there, no matter the boat...put 140 thermostats in it and vapor lock went away, i was also being more careful about overall heat management with daytime temps going over 100 F....i've put about 20 hrs on engine since thermostat change-out with no problems...getting ready for tomorrows trip back to L. Powell and ran engines on hose...left engine would come up to temp about normal, but would then would fall off back to 100 F and then come up or down seemingly independent of throttle setting (up to 2500 rpm with good water pressure on hose)..no water leaks in boat or outdrive, engine temps were cool everywhere to the touch, including thermostat housing and all hoses...after shutdown and heatsoak stabilized, engine was only slightly warm...no startup problems, or any run problems up to the 2500 rpm previously mentioned....i'm thinking temp sensor sender, maybe ?...the water temp warning horn doesn't actuate
 

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ran engines on hose

up to 2500 rpm

Any rpm above 1500 and a garden hose cannot supply all the water the engine can use and can damage the impeller because not enough to keep it wet.

The temp coming up then fall back off would be expected on a hose.

If it does it in the water then would do some investigation, but not now
 

achris

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When you changed the thermostats, did you use genuine housing gaskets? the ones with brass rivets in them...

Chris.......
 

slyrydr

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yes i used the brass eyelet gaskets and a mercruiser thermostat kit.....the rpm at 2500 was only for a few seconds to check response...the water pressure at my house comes from secondary water and is very good pressure, the other engine responded normally...
 

slyrydr

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took boat to L Powell for 8 days and was able to trade temp sensors on thermostat housing, as well as temp gauges...temp on gauge would run from 100 degrees to thermostat opening at 140 and back down again, taking about 10 seconds to do so, problem stayed with problem engine...sensors and gauges traded between both engines with just the port engine showing problem...got home and back flushed lake water pickup lines and lines for exhaust risers with no change...the output water from both sides shows good flow...took IR sensor and took many readings on hoses, thermostat housing etc, with all showing about 90 +/- 10 degrees or so...hmmm...so i took reading off intake manifold and got 195 degrees....so i'm thinking water circulation pump isn't working to pump water thru thermostat housing on regular flow basis....does all this add up to engine water pump problem ? seems so to me, not too big a problem to change out pump, but would like to be reasonably certain that's what i need to do...any inputs..?
 

achris

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Pull the pump, open up the back plate and have a look.
 

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Suggest get a piece of clear 1 inch ID hose, a double barbed hose fitting and couple clamps. Attach the tubing between the thermostat housing and the hose coming from the drive. Then go boating and see if you see air bubbles
 

slyrydr

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for those who may have followed this topic....i pulled the water recirculation pump....the impeller was split top to bottom...causing no/low flow and the consequent fluctuation in the temp on the gage...biggest clue was use of the IR gun to find where the heat from the engine was going, in this case, the intake manifold ....i think the low volume of the recirc pump caused the thermostat to open, but then the output of the water pump in the alpha outdrive flooded the thermostat, causing it to close back down, only to be repeated again..anyway, thanks for all the inputs and keep the propeller side down
 
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