A rant about ill mannered kid and lousey parents......

snapperbait · Sep 5, 2003

Went out to dinner with my folks for our usuall friday night thing at the same old greasy spoon resturant we usually go to... Nice, peaceful, same faces there every night kind of place... Always have an iced tea on the table for me, ready and waiting...

Just about the time we get situated at our table and dinner's on the way, enter mom and her three screaming brats (guessing ages 4,6,&8, maybe), some more of the friday night regulars... I casually look around at the faces and the smiles have turned a bit sour with that "ah $h!T"

look, and it sure ain't the food.... Sure enuff, the screaming and kaos begins and mom must be oblivious to the fact that her children have absolutely no manners whatsoever... I can condone these actions at chuck-e-cheese but at a decent resturant, come on! Does mom think it's cute? I can guarntee that if they were mine, some butts would get a beating for that kind of behavior, for sure... What can ya say to her? Lady, why don't you leave them at home till you teach them how to act... I do think the waitress may have said something to mom, I dunno for sure... They were in and out pretty quick like.. Now, I know some of you may say, that grouchy ol' snapper, he don't know what mom's situation is (and i don't, nor do i care).. She might be tired, sick, single mom, or whatever... So? Thats no excuse for it... Can't control your kids, don't take them out to a public place.. Heck, can't control em', don't have em in the first place... Don't ya just love it when you pay good money to go see a show and some parents have their 2 year old screaming brat with em'?

ob · Sep 5, 2003

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Legitimate gripe.

Wrong place at wrong time.

Happens to everyone once in a while.

I hate it too.

roscoe · Sep 5, 2003

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Hmmm, 4,6,8,... that would be shark bait size.

neumanns · Sep 5, 2003

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I know how ya feel...I cant even eat out without getting a bunch of dirty looks from the regulars, I mean comon how much noise can my kids make

11 footer · Sep 5, 2003

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I deal with this all the time. I work as a function waiter, I work big weddings mosley. The parents get drunk and the kids run wild

The sad thing is we really can't do anything about it......

GodsBeast · Sep 5, 2003

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I hear ya Snapperbait, I understand, and agree. The other thing that bothers me more though, that has got me into a scrape or two is another group nearby using loud profane language, or dipsticks at the next gas pump playing that boom boom, profane, vulgar crap. I'm the type that usually has enough, and the wife, is usually grabbing my hand saying, "Oh, it really isn't bothering me." Those 4, 6, & 8, years olds that you were talking about, usually grow into the one's that I'm talking about. I understand, your situation is a hard one to get involved in. But once they grow up into the one's I'm talking about, I just can't sit there and take it. My dad would have creamed me (Mom also) in either situation. Manners seemed to have gone out the window.

SeaMasterZ@aol.com · Sep 5, 2003

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Beast said:

My dad would have creamed me (Mom also) in either situation. Manners seemed to have gone out the window.

WOW! he would have creamed yer MOM too, jeeze hes a hard azz!!!! well, the rule of thumb IS that you cant beat yer wife with a rod bigger around than your thumb ... course guys with thumbs big enough to tear a tree out of the ground are usually ADORED by their wives, hehehe ... or is that big feet?

Homerr · Sep 5, 2003

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Yep Snapper... I'm quickly realizing I'm turning into that 'ol fart as well... Almost every darn time I go to a nice place to eat, in comes the brat from hell. And the parents don't give a rats-azz either. They encourage it, and think it's great. Never once do they take the obvious upset child outside so everyone else can eat in peace. I've got up and left on many occasions. The wife is usually very vocal and tells the parents "Sure glad our kids don't act like that"! We usually get a few dirty looks. And how do you like the response when these spineless parents do act? "Now Johnny...Stop it...(in a usually light voice)" Of course the kid completely ignores them. "Don't make me tell you agian"...etc... On the cycle goes... SPINELESS! Paddle his butt once real good, and he'll stop! Then you have the doo-gooders turning you into child services for raising your voice...God forbid if you swat the kid on the backside in public and have a low life turn you in for it. I've heard of this happening on more than a few occasions. There's abuse, and there's discipline. A BIG differance. This is society today. Can you believe it? These are the un-disciplined children that will run our future? Loud stereos don't usually bother me unless I can hear it above mine and my air tight truck cab. You see this behavior constantly now, and society wonders why kids are rebels today. A good 'ol fashioned azz-whooping is what they need. The only hope I get out of all this is when the waitress comes up to us after our dinner and says "You have the best, well-mannered kids I've ever seen" Even my 4 year old... Good genes I guess... H.

GodsBeast · Sep 5, 2003

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Good one Castaway, I left myself open for it

I was pointing out that at least I was raised by two parents that would paddle my rear.

Oh Homerr, They didn't have cell phones back then, by my Dad (I love him so) would have lent you his cell phone to call the cops and whatever service you wanted, so they could watch him paddle my sister and I. You are right there is a difference to applying a hand or belt to the rear, than a fist to the face. You'd love me, you should see some of the looks on the kids face that have called us, when I show up and offer Mom my belt. Award winning looks from both the parents and the little bugger! You could jump, or you could squat, but Dad would grab that wrist and a circle we'd go, he never missed my butt. I deserved every one I got too.

SpinnerBait_Nut · Sep 5, 2003

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It just goes back to that 'ol saying, "Spare the rod and spoil the child"

Ifn we did something wrong, we got it, plain and simple, and dad was not worried about if it hurt or not, and oh so many times, I can remember saying, "Dad, that did not hurt", oh boy, I got it again.

Pretty soon, I got smart and me not said that anymore.

aspeck · Sep 8, 2003

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As a father of a 2 year old, I agree with you all! When the littlest aspeck was born, I figured that the misses and I would be done eating out for a while. But, we worked with little aspeck and she is usually the "hit" when we go out to eat. SHe is polite (please and thank-you's), does not scream (but does do a lot of smiling at others), and sits still in her seat, even if we are at a fancier restaurant with a long wait for our food. She knows that she will get rewards for good behavior and a trip to the SUV where the wooden spoon resides if she is not. We always get compliments on her behavior, demeanor, and entertainment value. It is fun to take her to a restaurant. Oh, and in the event that she drops some food on the floor, which does happen from time to time, it is always picked up and our area cleaned up before we leave - we will not leave it for the waitress or staff, or the other patrons to have to see.

JGREGORY · Sep 8, 2003

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Welcome back from vacation Aspeck.

I have to add my $.02 here. As a father of a year old we do our very best to control the little Commodore. That started by taking her to resturants at a young age and teaching her proper behaviour when dining out. Like Aspeck we try to leave the place as neatly as when we arrived. And we also get compliments on her behaviour. Improper behaviour at a resturant is inexcuseable. Snapper you may be correct and she may be a single mother But I've seen kids acting like Monsters when both parents are there. If parents do not want to be trouble by there kids arrainge a babysitter or better yet DON'T HAVE THEM! I can think some of my friends that would have been better off being the last of the gene pool. I've watched my best friends daughter tell him f*** off and him and his wife just laugh it off. If it was me she would have had my fist in her mounth and pulling out broken teeth.

oddjob · Sep 8, 2003

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How about those loser parents ( and in laws )observe your childs good manners and says something like, " Aren't you lucky to have such well behaved children".

Like luck has someting to do with it. My wife and I took turns eating for a few years. When child acts up dinner it was over. Eventually the child figures out that it more enjoyable if we all ate together. We also let them cry themselves to sleep.

(I had to hold crying momma outside the door). But she was glad I did, she was exhausted.

Now, my kids are 10 and 7. Eventually, even good kids will slip when they start spending more and more time at school, daycare and in the neigborhood. They practically have to act up with other kids in order fit in and not be run over by the masses.

While I understand and tolerate being silly I wont rudeness or disrespect when I need to intervine. And most times I do not warn of punishment, I simply give it. So its rare if I have to. I have spanked in public when they present me the opportunity. Every parent should deal with the childs public challenge. Thats what it is, so take it away.

Bozo · Sep 9, 2003

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Just walk up to her and let her know you have a belt if she needs to use one. I have done it before and shortly after she quites glaring at you, she will realize that she needs to get control of the situation. Just looking at the shear horror and shock of the offending families faces is worth all of the bellering and bawling you have put up with for the prior ten minutes and you don't even have to do the whipping or tell her she is parenting wrong. You just have to merely suggest that you are there with a tool if needed.

braindead0 · Sep 9, 2003

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Just walk up to her and let her know you have a belt if she needs to use one.

And then the busy body next to you calls child services (or whatever passes for that), and they come and decide you 'abuse' your children..take them away..etc..etc.. Once we let the government into our lives they have continued to keep grabbing more and more away from us. When I was a kid.. I used to talk (motormouth was the word).. my grandfather could shut me up in under a second, he always had band-aids in his wallet.. He only had to tape my mouth shut once.

dakotashooter2 · Sep 10, 2003

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There is a diffence between normal kid behavior and "out of control". I think most of us can handle the normal squeal, loud talking or occasional kicking the booth as kid behavior. A restraunt however is not a playground/battleground. If kids can't behave reasonably at your own table at home (where manners SHOULD start) then you shouldn't be dragging them to a restraunt.

JGREGORY · Sep 10, 2003

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Right on!

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