A strange electrical issue.

misery

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I'm working on getting my 86 johnson 150 hp j150tlcdc tuned up and its coming along nicely. I wanted to hook up a tach to tweak it some more but I seem to have some funny electrical problems.
When I got the boat it wouldn't shut off unless I turned the key off and then pushed the key in everything else seemed to work well so I never really paid much mind to it. The p/o had a new control box installed about a year before I bought the boat but never used it due to an illness so he had nothing to say about the funny key switch. I tried to hook up an old omc tach I had laying around tonight and that's where things got odd, I found the wires under the gunwale for the tach, grey, purple and black. I hooked them to the wires sticking out of the tach and voila.... Nothing. I wasn't sure if the tach was a working unit so I touched the ground and the grey to the battery and the needle flinched so it looks like it might work. So I hooked the tach back up and started the boat on the hose and proceeded to play with the wires, at this point I received a nasty shock from the wires on the tach. I'm not sure which ones I got the shock from but I wasn't willing to try it again to find out. After the feeling came back to my fingers I turned the key off and the motor shut off without pushing the key in!!!!. WTF, I said so I tried it again and it did it several more times, so I unhooked the tach and tried it again and the darn thing wouldn't shut off until I pushed the key in.
My electrical skills are rudimentary at best so this one I weirding me out. If any one could shed some light on this, (pun intended) it would be greatly appreciated.
 

Barnacle_Bill

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Re: A strange electrical issue.

You most likely blew your rectifier when playing with those wires. It may have been bad all along and that is why the tach wasn't working. Your manual will give you testing procedures.
 

Daviet

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Re: A strange electrical issue.

If the only way you could shut down is by pushing the key in (choking it), check the black/yellow wire going to the power pack for an open. That is the kill circut, it sounds like it is not grounging out when you turn the key off.
 

misery

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Re: A strange electrical issue.

I'll check that wire, will there be one going to both power packs. Why would it suddenly start working when I hooked up the tach? The shock I got almost felt like a spark plug wire kind of shock, is there that much voltage in that circuit?
 

misery

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Re: A strange electrical issue.

Thanks Daviet I'll look into that
 

Fed

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Re: A strange electrical issue.

The PO could have connected the key switch wrongly.....trust no one.
 

guy74

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Re: A strange electrical issue.

I'll check that wire, will there be one going to both power packs. Why would it suddenly start working when I hooked up the tach? The shock I got almost felt like a spark plug wire kind of shock, is there that much voltage in that circuit?
The voltage in the kill wire is around 150 vac, I think. If you make contact with it, it will put the hurt on you and make you scream like a little girl! :D I had that experience a couple days ago, lol, still haven't found the screwdriver that flew out of my hand at that point :facepalm:
 

misery

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Re: A strange electrical issue.

Well I didn't scream like a girl but the air got blue in a hurry, the only wires that I had exposed were a purple, a black and a grey. Isn't the kill wire yellow and black?
 

guy74

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Re: A strange electrical issue.

I wouldn't bet on anything, it sounds like your controls are not wired correctly. The purple wire is supposed to be 12vdc and the black is ground. The grey wire is carrying 12-17vac, at least that is what mine tests at. If you got a big shock out of any of those, perhaps your controls are not grounded, and you got kill wire voltage out of the ground wire. That is my best guess without being able to look at the wiring firsthand.
 
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