achors- ?

wajajaja

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hello, <br /> my newbe question for the day.<br />got a 19'bayliner cuddy, anchor, several books on boatting, took the boat saftey course on line but all sources i've read so far assumes one knows what to do with the anchor. <br /> to assume is not to be safe. all response's appriciated, even if they might be overly obvious or simple.<br />thanks
 

crab bait

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"course on line but all sources i've read so far assumes one knows what to do with the anchor. <br /> to assume is not to be safe." <br /><br />what do you mean..?? what to do with it..<br /><br />explain better...
 

Drowned Rat

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Waja, you should attach a length of chain to the anchor and then the line (rope) to the chain. The chain adds weight to the anchor and helps hold the flukes in the bottom. For flat water pay out 4 to 6 times the depth of the water. If it's windy or choppy 6 to 8 times the depth. A swivel between the chain and anchor or rope will help when pulling the anchor up to coil the line. Hope this helps.
 

Ralph 123

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I HIGHLY recommend you buy a copy of the book, "Getting Started in Power boating." It is a classic work that will walk you through in detail how to select the proper type and size anchor for your boat and how to properly secure the anchor.<br /><br />There are several types of anchors designed for the type of bottom and size of boat. There are procedures for setting the different types of anchors (like the amount of scope necessary) and the proper tackle necessary. There are ways to use your anchor to help you if you get caught in bad waether....etc., etc. The book will help you a good deal I think (it helped me a great deal and I often re-read sections)
 

bradyt

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If your boat lacks skills ,anchors don't work!<br /><br />mth54-Pink at night sailors delight,Pink in the morning sailors take warning!
 

rickdb1boat

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Drowned Rat is right on!!! I use the fluted type fore and aft when I really want to stay put, if the bottom allows...
 

sloopy

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Let me quickly clear up something! YOU NEVER THROW AN ANCHOR OVERBOARD! you slowly lower it into the water then let it go, making sure that the rode is not kinking. Always tie the bitter end of the rode to a cleat before lowering the anchor into the water. If you are just anchoring for an hour or two you can use a weighted anchor (around thirty pounds) when using a weighted anchor have the rode be 1.5 times the depth of the water. if you want to anchor for a longer amount of time and there is boat wake you can use a normal fluke anchor and enough rode to equal 7 times the depth of the water. If you are anchoring in current or where there is a lot of boat wake you should have 10-20 feet of chain and enough rode let out to equal 7 times the depth.
 

rickdb1boat

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Good post, Sloopy! And very true, as the rode is what mainly holds the boat in place if long and heavy enough. Look at you large ships(Navy). Thats how they do it.
 

18rabbit

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normal fluke anchor
These don't exist anymore...the "normal" part. Anchors are a changing technology. Powerboat Reports has done some in depth evaluations of anchor designs for setting, re-setting, scope, hold, etc. The results are surprising. Traditional archors are often less desirable.
 

sloopy

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When I say normal fluke I am referring to a danforth (sp) anchor.
 

rschnack

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Sloopy is right about not throwing the anchor overboard and being sure to tie it off. The harbor in my home town is much deeper than it appears. I worked in the local hardware store when I was a kid and we always kept several anchors in stock for the embarrassed sailors who threw their anchors overboard and looked back just in time to see the end of the anchor line go overboard.<br />RCS
 

butlp

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Sloopy, RB,<br /><br />What is a rode? I have never heard of this expression!
 

ED21

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And don't forget to pull it up when you want to go. ;) How many people will admit to that? <br />(two times & counting) :eek:
 

flashback

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Sloop's gettin all nautical on ya.. a rope is a rope until it is used on a boat then it becomes a line unless it is used on the anchor, then it is a rode'''makes good sense...
 

Ralph 123

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A rode isn't just rope though. When using a fluke type anchor the rode is part chain and part rope... The chain portion helps to force the anchor to lay flat and hold. They hold by force rather than weight. The more horizontal the better the hold. Some anchor rodes are all chain. Some are all rope.
 

Solittle

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I carry two anchors. When it is really windy putting two out will reduce the swing and thus reduce the chance of one breaking free. They are also useful in some situations when you want to go ashore. Drop one a bit out and power in and drop the other on shore. It keeps you off of coral, rocks or whatever.
 

Fly Rod

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1st RODE is the gear that extends between the anchor and the boat.<br />2nd SCOPE of anchor line is the length of the anchorline in relationship to the depth of water.<br />In a calm sea conditions a 5:1 or 7:1 ratio may be used which means for every 1 foot of depth of water 5-7 of line must be extended This means that if you are in 30 feet of water you would multiply 30'x5 or 7 = 150 or 210 ' of anchor line.<br />Danforth anchors are used by many recreational boats. Even tho they hold best in mud and clay they difinitly hold well in rocks, I've lost a few in the rocks. I've never had a problem in the sand even tho they don't recomend them for sand.<br />If you are going to use the anchor in deep water you either should have a windless which retrieves the anchor automactically. Or you can do what i do and that is use a anchor ball.<br />Sometimes but not always recomended is a sea anchor or drouge in stormy seas. Also could be used to slow boat down when drift fishing.
 

POINTER94

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quote:<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> a rope is a rope until it is used on a boat then it becomes a line unless it is used on the anchor...<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Or a halyard or a sheet... :)
 
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