I know what you mean OBJ, I had an 89 proline that had a 5 inch diameter hole in the floor through which they expected you to service the bilge pump, livewell pump, fishfinder tranducer and wireing harness. What were they thinking? After about 5 years of working one handed and blind under the deck I cut an access hatch and said to hell with that crap.Originally posted by OBJ:<br /> Tell ya' what Gil....if I was to do that, I'd make damn sure I could get to it...LOL!! Sometimes I don't know what the boat builders think of when they design. "OH LOOK! A wee little place to put the bilge pump!!" I dunno.