Alpha 1 Leaking Gear Lube

CableGuy1978

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Hello all,

I had noticed this drive leaking oil at the end of last season. It was coming out of the hole on the starboard side and close to the front of the lower gear case. I drained the gear lube, separated the upper from the lower, and pressure tested them both to 15lbs. The upper was tight, but the lower had a leak at the shift shaft bushing. I replaced the seals, bushing and shift shaft itself. I pressure tested after, and it held dead on.

I put the drive back together and slipped it back on the boat. Everything went back together perfectly and easily. I filled the drive with the usual high performance lube and left it for a few days, inspecting the the driveway for oil drips, and it was dry. I finally dewinterized the engine a few days ago, and had it running on the muffs. I shifted through forward reverse and neutral and everything works fine. This morning I was out replacing my battery cables on the engine, inspected the driveway for oil and it was still dry. I was hoping to get it out to try it under load soon..

Then tonight, after being away all day since this morning, I checked it again and there was oil there. A patch of oil roughly 3x4" or so. It was coming from the same hole it was prior to changing the shift shaft seals. Definitely a kick in the pants after a week of no oil leaking at all even after running it in the driveway for a half hour and letting it sit for a few more days.

At this point, I am planning on draining the oil, and pressure testing again. I thought I would throw this out there to see what some experts have to say on it. Perhaps I did something wrong when I did this repair as this was the first time I have done this particular repair. I have a Clymer, Seloc, and the original Mercruiser shop manual that came with the boat when I got it, which I used for reference. My parts and special tools are Quicksilver, ordered from a marine shop locally. I opted to replace all the parts of the lower shift shaft/bushing assembly to eliminate any possibilities of having this leak afterward. I'm puzzled that it passed the post repair pressure test and held its oil for nearly a week in the driveway until now.

The only difference today was it was actually substantially warmer than it has been, and the drive sits in direct hot sun most of the time. Could it have warmed up enough for expansion to happen that would put a lot more pressure on the drive? That's the only thing that makes sense to me. When I reinstalled the bushing and seal, I rubbed a bit of gear lube on them first so I wasn't fitting then together dry, same as I do with engine oil filters. The seals aren't really that expensive so I'm not overly concerned about the cost if I have to replace them again, but I am very concerned about the drive maintaining a proper gear lube level.

Thanks for taking the time to read through and especially for any advice/info you can share.
 

Bt Doctur

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Re: Alpha 1 Leaking Gear Lube

If there is no visable oil running down the driveshaft then suspect the water pump base seals or a bad shift shaft seal or O ring.
 

CableGuy1978

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Re: Alpha 1 Leaking Gear Lube

Thanks for the info so far Bt Doctur.. I have begun draining the gear lube out again, and should hopefully be able to do a pressure test tomorrow night. After sitting for the day it has leaked out roughly the same amount of fluid again. It appears to be leaking a lot faster than it ever did before, but when I get it separated and tested I will know more. I will be keeping an eye on the drive shaft as well for traces of oil running down it from the upper.
 

Bt Doctur

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Re: Alpha 1 Leaking Gear Lube

coming down the driveshaft will puddle on the top cover of the water pump. shift shaft will have visable oil in the cavity just in front of it,
water pump base seals can be checked by removing the impeller . Use steel sleeves to hold base in place while pressure is applied. otherwise it may pop up.
 

CableGuy1978

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Re: Alpha 1 Leaking Gear Lube

I took a look at this today since draining the remaining gear lube. I started by separating the drive and inspecting for visible signs of gear lube. I couldn't see anything out of the ordinary, everything was clean except for the cavity in front of the shift shaft on the lower. It appeared to be a leak in the shift shaft bushing, which I had just replaced recently. To be certain, I pressure tested both the upper and lower separately, and each held perfectly steady. I sprayed soapy water around the seals in both upper and lower with no bubbling at all. Puzzled, I put the drive back together and pressure tested the whole unit. It has now been aprox. 4 hours since I pressurized it, and the gauge is dead on 10 psi where I originally pumped it to. I have also been turning the shaft every so often as well and rechecking. The needle hasn't moved at all.

I'm not assuming that it just fixed itself somehow, but could I have done something wrong when I put the upper and lower together the first time? I used, and always use a new seal for the oil passage between the upper and lower. I picked up some more high performance lube, but I'm reluctant to go ahead and pump the drive up again. I much prefer when the problem jumps out in the open instead of these intermittent ones! :)
 

Bt Doctur

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Re: Alpha 1 Leaking Gear Lube

If it holds air it will hold oil. If the seal between the units was dislodged and the drive was in the raised position oil may run forward into that cavity and out the hole.
 

CableGuy1978

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Re: Alpha 1 Leaking Gear Lube

Thanks again Bt Doctur for the continued replies! It continues to hold air still as I checked it again this morning after leaving it pressurized since yesterday.

It's funny you mentioned the raised position as I do recall raising the drive to allow me to raise the bow of the boat after I had it lowered to make installing the drive easier. I never tested the drive as a complete unit before filling it the first time with lube, only tested the upper and lower separately. However now, with it holding air overnight like it has as a complete unit on the back of the boat, I will fill it up again today with more lube.

Thanks again for sticking with me on this, very much appreciated!
 
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