Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

mikep.

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I just boat a 1988 Rinker 186 Captiva 4.3l. I noticed after I got it home that the water inlet hose connecting the outdrive to the transom is dry rotted very badly. I can see that it is dry rotted past the nylon braids. From what I gather, the entire outdrive needs to be removed in order to replace it. Also, the trim gauge is not working and I can see what looks to be a small break in the wire behind the outdrive coming off the sensor . Also, a repair that requires the outdrive needs to be removed. This is my first boat and am trying to familiarize myself with the boat by performing the repair myself. The boat is in really good shape and appears to be maintained very well besides this. The motor runs great and the interior is in great shape. The main bellows and the shift bellows seem to be in great condition. But I want to do the repair once, do it right, and want to replace anything that might fail soon also. I figured while I am there, I might as well replace the bellows also. I am unsure of how neccesary replacing the shift cable or the gimball bearing. I was also going to replace the water pump too. I figured I'd replace the whole pump and not just the impeller. My question is, what else should I replace/ inspect while addressing these two issues. I am hoping put together a full parts/tool list that I will need to do this.

TIA
 

dubs283

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

you got a decent job ahead of you, yeah you gotta pull the drive

and the bellhousing

this means you gotta pull the u-joint/exhaust bellows and the shift cable as well

you should get the manual for your drive/transom available here:

http://www.4shared.com/document/zz_5pj9o/Service_Manual_06.html

have a good read, then refer to the forums for advice/help
 

mikep.

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

I already downloaded that manual and have been reading through it, this is me seeking advice. Where would you guys recommend ordering these parts from?
 

dubs283

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I already downloaded that manual and have been reading through it, this is me seeking advice. Where would you guys recommend ordering these parts from?

read through it again, then one more time if need be - to familiarize yourself with the transom assy

if you have never even pulled a drive before you gotta challenge ahead of you

you can order all the parts for this job right here on iboats (sierra, decent aftermarket), or you can get all OEM parts from your local merc dealer - it depends on your preference
 

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

I just boat a 1988 Rinker 186 Captiva 4.3l. I noticed after I got it home that the water inlet hose connecting the outdrive to the transom is dry rotted very badly. I can see that it is dry rotted past the nylon braids. From what I gather, the entire outdrive needs to be removed in order to replace it. Also, the trim gauge is not working and I can see what looks to be a small break in the wire behind the outdrive coming off the sensor . Also, a repair that requires the outdrive needs to be removed. This is my first boat and am trying to familiarize myself with the boat by performing the repair myself. The boat is in really good shape and appears to be maintained very well besides this. The motor runs great and the interior is in great shape. The main bellows and the shift bellows seem to be in great condition. But I want to do the repair once, do it right, and want to replace anything that might fail soon also. I figured while I am there, I might as well replace the bellows also. I am unsure of how neccesary replacing the shift cable or the gimball bearing. I was also going to replace the water pump too. I figured I'd replace the whole pump and not just the impeller. My question is, what else should I replace/ inspect while addressing these two issues. I am hoping put together a full parts/tool list that I will need to do this.

TIA

Well, I hope that you factored the outdrive/transom assembly work needed into your purchase price. Outdrive removal is fairly easly . . . replacing all of those parts (inlet hose, bellows, trim sensor, etc) is a PITA.

You say the engine runs nice . . . on the muffs or out on the water?

You are on the right track reading through the manual.

I get my parts from a variety of suppliers

http://www.iboats.com there is 'here', of course,

http://www.ebasicpower.com

http://www.mercruiserparts.com

http://www.go2marine.com
 

mikep.

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

Well, I hope that you factored the outdrive/transom assembly work needed into your purchase price. Outdrive removal is fairly easly . . . replacing all of those parts (inlet hose, bellows, trim sensor, etc) is a PITA.

You say the engine runs nice . . . on the muffs or out on the water?

You are on the right track reading through the manual.

I get my parts from a variety of suppliers

http://www.iboats.com there is 'here', of course,

http://www.ebasicpower.com

http://www.mercruiserparts.com

http://www.go2marine.com

Unfortunatley for me, I did not see the water line damage before I bought it. I brought a buddy that is more familiar with boats, as I am completely new to boats. I have only ran it on the muffs, I have not ran it on the water yet.
 

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

you can order all the parts for this job right here on iboats (sierra, decent aftermarket), or you can get all OEM parts from your local merc dealer - it depends on your preference
All I can add is be careful and selective with aftermarket... My sierra mech fuel pump (made in China) broke after 7.5 engine hours. Others have shared similar stories. Some parts better than others (filters, gaskets, impellers). Read parts reviews if available before purchase. Woulda saved me some $$.
 

mikep.

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

Is there an oem kit? Or do I need to piece everything together if I go oem parts? Does anyone sell a kit using oem parts?
 

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I usually check parts at a couple of sources til I am comfortable I know which part #s I want. Then I search, e-bay, amazon, google, and some good parts source sites using the #s and the descriptions.
I have been able to score some deals on individual parts and commonly combined packages this way. It takes some time, but it assures you don't over pay.
BTW you also are going to need an alignment bar to check the engine alignment when the drive is off the boat, don't order the bar til you decide whether you also want the gimbal bearing. There are some packages online for those pieces. There are some good tutorials here and on www.mercstuff.com that will help you cut through the information overload and find what you likely need.
This work isn't crazy hard, but some steps aren't that obvious so the guides are good. I'd recommend getting yourself a long 1/4" extension and a spring type flexing 1/4" extension to make the bellows installation easy. You will also want the shift fork installation guide tool, it's a $3 widget that really eases drive installation when you are putting it back together. You ought to get the drive pivot tool, though some use a 1/2" allen wrench. That is what releases the drive bellhousing from the gimbal ring. If you end up replacing the shift cable there is a long socket to put in the shift cable end onto the bellhousing, I would not buy that. You can replicate it with a 9/16" spark plug socket driven by a second socket to get the extra depth it requires. The spark plug socket has a hex on it's back end which allows the second socket to turn it. You will also need some red Locktite, some Mercruiser Perfect Seal Compound, and some of their grease and lower unit lube. I tried others lubricant but the Mercruiser gear oil really is best, and their grease and gear oil are formulated to handle the marine environment. They cost extra but they are worth the difference.
The water hose from the bellhousing to the transom is a PITA installation, follow the Mercruiser instructions exactly. The hose length must be correct or the hose will kink or pull off. If you follow Mercruiser's method it will come out right.
You can easily get by without the trim guage, many don't work. Once you understand how the boat behaves the guage isn't actually essential because you trim by feel anyway. If you replace the sender(s), that gets done while the bellhousing is off.
Main thing is, follow their sequence. If you replace the senders do them first and be careful to get the wires in the right spot for no pinches.
It's fun work because it leads to time on the water. Enjoy your boat, doing this youself will assure you know it was done right and that you save some major dinero!
 
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NHGuy

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

I did this stuff my first year and since then I've only needed maintenance. I built a drive stand my 2nd year. I wish that was available from the get go. It's a real back and time saver. Search the DIY page http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=342393 , for lots of great "how-to's"
 

mikep.

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

What about the shift cable? How would I know if it is good or not? How often do the go bad?
 

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

I just replaced mine on a 1988 & I suspect it was original. When they do go bad they often have increased resistance to moving and that in turn causes the symptom of stalling when going out of gear as the shift interupt switch gets triggered for longer periods.

In other words the boat would stall intermittently but mostlly at the dock whan everyone was watching & the wind was picking up. Interestingly Merc recomends no lubricant as it tends to gum up in the cable overtime which often runs wet at the lower end on these drives. These can be replaced later without pulling the bell housing but you would need to pull the drive.


Its hard for me to advise you on changing it now or later. Its sort of a personal decision like how much insurance you should buy. Perhaps one of the experts can advise. Perhaps a visual inspection and cleaning would help you decide.

P.S.
Wholesale Marine is a great place to buy parts also.
 

Weirthit

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Re: Alpha 1 Water Inlet Dry Rotten/ Trim Sensor Replacement

Does the part number on the manual above include the wires to a junction point?

Just a heads up about bellows. I have read that an exhaust tube is a much easier installation than exhaust bellows. Also, there is a product called Mercury Power Tune, (double check the name by searching bellows) that is better and easier than bellows adhesive.

That is the route I will be taking.
 
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