Alpha one gen two through tansom oil fitting problems

ethan169

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Hello all,

I am working on replacing all of the bellows, shift cable etc on a boat with an alpha one gen two. 94' vintage I believe. This particular model has the oil reservoir for the drive which is great, however the oil hose between the transom housing and the bellhousing was pretty cracked and dry rotted so I decided to replace that as well while I had everything apart.

Unfortunately the hose barb on the outside of the boat slightly broke when I was trying to put a new hose on. This model has the BRASS version, NOT the plastic one. It's probably still usable since its hard to telll if it broke or just bent slightly but I'd like to replace it. I have removed the right angle fitting, nut and washer inside of the boat but can't seem to get that sucker out. I have tapped on it with a stiff rubber mallet, even put the nut back on and used a metal hammer (lightly). It hasn't budged quite yet. Any tips on getting this thing out? I tried applying a little heat on the outside too but its hard since the plastic water tube is right above it.

The part I'm talking about is circled in red on the attached picture. Any ideas are greatly appreciated!
 

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Grub54891

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Spray some penetrating lube on both ends, get a wrench on the inside hex head and twist it a bit. It's just stuck in the grommet. I know it's hard to get at in there. I gave a sacrificial wrench I use: Cut shorter. Should be able to break free and come out. Another option is to double nut the outside and wriggle it loose from there.
 

alldodge

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The hose is always hard mainly because when Merc put the unit together, they didn't hold the piece so when tightened, the barbed end gets turned into the housing.

The way I get the hose on is first take a tie wrap and place it in the brass barbed fitting. Take some Dawn soap and use on hose end, then with needle nose pliers push on the hose. Once on, tighten the tie wrap
 

ethan169

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Grub - Good idea with the double nut, however I don't think it will spin because it is captured on the outside by the way it sits inside of the transom housing. It looks like it was designed that way to keep it in place while tightening the inner nut?

Alldodge- I'll try the dish soap method, I think that will work. Right now the brass barb is slightly bent and potentially broken so I would like to just replace it. I just cant get the dang thing out. I did put some good penetrating oil on it last night and I'll give it another go tonight. Hopefully it just comes out...
 

alldodge

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Getting a hold of the nut on the inside to loosen, if motor was out it would be much easier. They don't make the brass ones anymore, but may find some new old stock
 

ethan169

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I have already removed the nut and washer on the inside. I have about as much room as I could have for now. The steering components and flywheel/coupler housing are in the way but I can get a small mallet down there to tap on it.

As for the brass fitting, I was able to find one locally. They have to order it, but thats the way it goes for most of the merc parts for this place. I didn't get a chance to try again tonight. Maybe tomorrow. I'll post back with what happens.

Thanks again.
 
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