Anti Fouling Paint...

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I am going to put anti fouling paint on the bottom of my 14ft aluminum jon boat. I just am not too familar with it because all my other boats have lifts... What kind should i get? Looking to be resonable in the price but something that will last. I use this boat mainly for crabbing and it will be sitting in salt water for the weekends... Not too sure what kind to get, Thanks...

Also any kind of prep work needed before you add your coat or coats of paint?
 

Ned L

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Re: Anti Fouling Paint...

If you are going to leave it in for only a couple of days at a time (weekends) I wouldn't bother with bottom paint. If it will be in for a couple of weeks or more at a time, then yes. No marine life is going to take hold & start growing in 48 hours or so. As for bottom paint on an aluminum hull, it must be one designed for aluminum (no copper), just follow the directions.
 

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also bottom paint looses it's effectiveness when exposed to air. trailered boat it is a waste of$$$$. i would be more concerned with anodes, in salt water.
 

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As stated, there are special paints for aluminum hulls. One of the more popular ones is Tri-Lux III. Tri-Lux requies several coats of special primer which acts to isolate the metal of the hull from the bottom paint.

As was stated, if you pull the hull out of the water for the weekdays, and only use the boat on weekends, you do not need any bottom paint.
 
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I bought it used and have been messing with it all winter (motor and trailer mostly) now i am ready for the boat... Its scratched up but its not like I am trying to win awards with it. I was just looking for something to cover all the scratches and flakey paint. I was thinking about having the inside sprayed with spay in bed liner for trucks. I am just looking for alternatives to help the apperance some...

Thanks for the input
 

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also bottom paint looses it's effectiveness when exposed to air. trailered boat it is a waste of$$$$. i would be more concerned with anodes, in salt water.

No barnacles in Florida?

YR447 - out of curiosity what body of water are you on?
Do not buy the cheapest thing. Since I did this 2 seasons ago on one boat, I've never had so many barnacles!:(
 
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Mostly down Ocean City Maryland and Dundee Creek in the Joppa Maryland area... I figured anti fouling paint would help with salt water and to cover up some eye sores... My other boat and 2 jet skis stay in Ocean City but they are on lifts so this guy is just going to have to sit....
 

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Something told me you were nearby.
In the Spring West has their bottom paints on sale. Don't procrastinate, they don't restock very well afterwards.
I see they have Pettit Ultima on sale (not by much) which has the high cuprous content you want in the Bay. 30% won't be enough to keep the barnacles off.
 

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I just did a lot of research about this for aluminum boats. Keep in mind that I did not test, I took the word of various manufactures.

When it came to anti-fouling, most of them said don't bother on a Tinny that isn't permanently left in the water.

Here's the catch, most manufactures consider permanent to be anything over 72 hours. At that point you have to consider an entirely different process. You first must apply a barrier coating and many say this must be up to 10 mil thick. Then you need to apply a anti-fouling paint that is designed to be used on aluminum boats.

For antifouling paint to be effective it needs to wear off fairly rapidly to expose fresh agent. Water does this fast enough but they say that trailer bunks wear it off very quickly. I guess that means that you need to check it often and repaint as necessary so you don't rub through the barrier coating.

As an alternative, I settled on Interlux VC Performance with teflon. This is a trailerable product and can withstand submersion for long periods of time. It has zero UV protection so it is for use only below the waterline. It's not antifouling but they say it is very easy to clean using a car wash pressure wand, (haven't tested).

Now you have to think, because you're probably going to want to paint above the water line if you want a nice looking boat. The VC Performance has no UV protection so above the waterline it will chalk out on you pretty fast.

If you paint the sides, you have to do them first and you have to use something that is compatable with the bottom paint you choose. You need to paint down just below the waterline. Then when you apply your barrier coat and bottom paint you'll set your waterline so that you lap the side paint. This will put the paint seam facing up so that the hydraulic pressures of the water don't cause it to get forced under the seam and cause it to peel off the side paint.

So now you have about 500.00 invested in paint and a lot of time preping, etc. Does it make more sense now why you should just leave it bare and buy a good pressure washer instead.
 
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Yeah I figured it would be in that price range but i was hoping for a cheap and easy fix. I will just keep my eyes open and see what pops up in the spring and see how i feel then... Guess its good to have that 3600PSI gas pressure washer at home? I have an 2006 220 Sea hunt to do all my real fishing in this is just my weekend crabber/winter project...
 

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On an aluminum boat you really don't want to be using a bottom paint that contains cuprous oxide (copper) as the active ingredient. Bottom paints for aluminum used to use TBT (tributal tin) but I think that's been pretty well done away with for environmental reasons. The problem with using cuprous oxide (copper) based bottom paints is that copper and aluminum (the boat) are far apart on the galvanic scale, so that when the two are connected & put in salt water (an electrolite) you create a battery and the aluminum is automatically corroded away. The barrier layer (to separate the two metals) helps reduce this tendancy.
 

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Re: Anti Fouling Paint...

how about fiberglass hulls? anyone give me some tips on preperation and a type of pain tthey would recommend for the great lakes? It would be sitting in the water all year long, your thoughts?
 

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how about fiberglass hulls? anyone give me some tips on preperation and a type of pain tthey would recommend for the great lakes? It would be sitting in the water all year long, your thoughts?

I haven't painted a fiberglass boat but when I was researching my paint solution I found that unlike Tinny's you have a ton of options. Most of the paints out there seem to be designed around fiberglass boats. You will want a good barrier coating on the submerged surfaces and the recommended thickness is still 10 mil. This is supposed to prevent osmosis blisters in gelcoat. Those I have seen and they aint pretty but often not permanently damaging either.
 

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Jserb, You location is listed as Michigan. This implies fresh water only use. You will want magnesium anodes on the motor. I would also ask around to see if you need any antifouling paint.

You might want to install the barrier coat, especially if the boat is older and has not been kept in the water all year. Most of the newer hulls have a vinylester gelcoat on the hull to make them resistant to blistering.
 

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Re: Anti Fouling Paint...

On an aluminum boat you really don't want to be using a bottom paint that contains cuprous oxide (copper) as the active ingredient. Bottom paints for aluminum used to use TBT (tributal tin) but I think that's been pretty well done away with for environmental reasons. The problem with using cuprous oxide (copper) based bottom paints is that copper and aluminum (the boat) are far apart on the galvanic scale, so that when the two are connected & put in salt water (an electrolite) you create a battery and the aluminum is automatically corroded away. The barrier layer (to separate the two metals) helps reduce this tendancy.

Nice theory. In reality, the boat will outlive you.
Copper is the best thing to keep the barnacles off.

YR447 - That pressure washer will rip that expensive bottom paint right off the hull. I have a 2200 which does nothing to barnacles.
 
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Re: Anti Fouling Paint...

I figured putting bottom paint on aluminum would be a pain. I will keep my eyes out for something more "pratical" from a budget view. Not trying to break the bank on this project I was just looking for a good bottom paint that wont hurt the hull and not give me years of headache, while at the same time has an easy applicaication process that dosnt need alot of prep work...


Thanks for your all input...
 
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