Anyone ever try HTS 2000 Brazing Rod?

Saskatoon2005

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Hello All,

I have a 1975 Starcraft boat with small leaks. I have been on this website:

http://www.aluminumrepair.com/

...and am thinking of trying this on my boat. Just curious if anyone else has tried this with success. I have trouble believing the testimonials as they ARE trying to SELL their product. Any inputs? please post...

Patrick
 

Saskatoon2005

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Re: Anyone ever try HTS 2000 Brazing Rod?

Interesting that no one has tried this before....is anyone else willing to try it with me and see how it works out?LOL! Good luck eh?

Patrick
 

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Re: Anyone ever try HTS 2000 Brazing Rod?

Is the leak at a rivet? or do you have a split or hole? From what I have heard it is very tough to use unless the conditions are at the optimum. When you are working on such a large surface you essentially have one giant heat sink. For the money and use I would either go with gluvit and marine tex putty or get someone with an aluminum welder to do it.

If you do decide to go that route.... YOU ARE GOING to be our source :) in the future
 

fraannk

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Re: Anyone ever try HTS 2000 Brazing Rod?

If you want to try it out a little cheaper... Harbor Freight sells some of that stuff that is called Alumiweld. It is only 12.95 for 8 rods of the stuff and if you pick it up there will be no shipping costs. I know that the other places (HTS 2000, Durafix... ) charge at least 40 bucks per pound which is a little over 20 rods. From all the research that I did they are all the same. I am glad you are going to try it out before me and will tell me how it is. There are plenty of videos on Youtube.com about the stuff.
 

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Re: Anyone ever try HTS 2000 Brazing Rod?

Yeah, I've used it.

It's not a bad option if you keep in mind its limitations and follow the rules for brazing.

For those not familiar with this, it's a low temperature aluminum repair rod made of a zinc alloy (I believe) that works like regular brazing rod or a high temperature solder (which is really what it is).

There are several manufacturers of similar products now, and you can buy this stuff in a lot of places, including local hardware stores.

Things to remember for using it:
* Clean metal is required. Very clean metal. Wipe clean with acetone, brush or grind, then wipe clean again. Shiny new aluminum is what you want.

* It won't bridge large gaps. You can't fill big holes with it, you need to cut a patch from some other piece of metal.

* It flows very well into small gaps, provided the metal is heated

* Even so, grind out hull cracks into a V shape both so you have clean metal and so you have more surface area for adhesion

* Some rods require flux, some don't... I'd use it regardless to help clean the metal

* For joining larger pieces of metal (as opposed to patching pinholes or cracks) Apply one coat of the stuff, keeping it hot, and brush it in with a stainless steel brush to thoroughly wet the metal, then create your joint with a second application.

* Keep in mind that this stuff is stronger than solder or gluvit, weaker than brazing or welding. Test your new joint, grab it with pliers and pull hard. If it's done properly nothing will happen. If it failed to adhere, it'll come off pretty easily. Give it another try.

It's easy to mess up using this stuff, but you can always pull it apart and try again. You can use a regular propane torch with it, but for larger metal pieces you'll probably want to pre-heat with a heat gun and maybe also use a oxy-fuel torch. Aluminum conducts heat very, very well, and it'll be hard to keep a large piece hot enough to melt this stuff. Consider using a heat sink near your work area to keep stuff you don't want heated cold. It won't help the welding, but it may save you a burn.

All in all, if it works this is good stuff, but it can be frustrating to get it to work right. I suggest practice before working on a boat you care about.

Erik
 

Saskatoon2005

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Re: Anyone ever try HTS 2000 Brazing Rod?

Thanks for the heads up. Yeah, I have a gap (probably about 1cm X 2 cm big) that was filled with some rubberized material...

It is at the joint where the front of the boat meets the lower keel area, I know, it doesn't really explain, so I will try and get you a picture of what I mean. Easier said than done as my boat is covered in snow right now, but I should be able to get something off the internet and then circle what I mean. I can't see if there was any damage to the area, I am just guessing that it was originally built that way.

I have a 1975 Starcraft that looks identicla to the 65-67 Starcraft Jupiter series. Has anyone else seen this gap in the keep near the front of the boat where the bow meets the keel area? I'll try and find a pic of what I mean...

Thanks for all the help...

Okay, here is a photo I snagged....hope no one is offended...LOL!


Patrick
 

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