Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

D0T-C0M

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Is there a cross reference for all the OMC sealants,greases adhesives etc that they make mention in the service manual. I want to overhaul the waterpump and they mention all these OEM products. I don't have a dealer close by plus they probably want an arm and a leg where the local automotive store must have a compatible item in stock.

Can anyone help me out, I have no trouble doing the work its just I want to use the right products to seal it back up.
 

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Re: Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

There is a product called 3M 847 that's an equivilant to OMC Gel Seal. I use it everyday. Some guys use a product made by Lock Tight in the Aviation grade. I avoid products like silicone. You can still get Gel Seal through an OMC dealer but, it's pricey like you said. 3M 847 ain't cheap but it's good stuff and works on most all applications. You can clean it off with Acetone.
 

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Re: Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

So what other products do I need in order to rebuild my water pump?
 

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Re: Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

(Gasket Sealers)
(Usually available at any reliable automotive parts type store)
(J. Reeves)

Do Not use any type of sealer on outboard carburetor or intake manifold gaskets as this would cause blockage of various fuel/air passageways. Also, there are new type gaskets, including head gaskets, which are used through out the engines that are coated with a substance that gives a shinny appearance to them. These gaskets are coated with a self sealer and are to be installed as is.... no sealers! Older style head and fuel related gaskets that are not coated with this substance are to be simply coated with oil.... nothing else.

All other gaskets (hopefully I've not overlooked anything above) should be coated with Gasket Sealer (the type that comes in a can that has a small brush in its screw off cap). This also pertains to some water pump installations that use a gasket between the plate and the lower unit housing.

Marprox Sealer 1000 or OMC Adhesive or Boat Armor Sealer 1000 (same substance)[See Below Note] should be used on any metal to metal or metal to plastic surface (such as impeller hsg to plate, and plate to lower unit surface) to eliminate air leaks. It should also be used on the Spaghetti tubing that is used on many powerhead crankcase halves, lower unit skegs, etc. I have found that this substance works quite well on various "O" Rings such as what are found on lower unit carrier and upper driveshaft bearing housings (Note that this substance is obviously not to be used on all "O" Rings). This substance also works quite well in sealing the surfaces between the lower unit and the exhaust housing to which it attaches, eliminating the unsightly water spray between the two after completing a water pump installation.

NOTE: OMC Adhesive is now Bombardier 3M Product #847 .

DO NOT use any sealer on the large "O" Rings that are used on the upper and lower crankcase heads (The housing/heads that slide over the top and bottom of the crankshaft). On those "O" Rings, use only a coating of grease.

The exception of surface to surface contacts pertains to the later model matching crankcase (block) halves (which does not incorporate spaghetti tubing) which call for "Gel-Seal", or any other surface that calls for Gel-Seal. This substance seals in the absense of air, and if called for, must be used. One other form of Gel Seal that can be substituted is "Loctite #518". Nothing else that I know of will do!

I advise against using silicone or permatex on a outboard engine. It simply will not function properly. The exception to this (as per OMC's recommendation), is to use the black Permatex (heavily) on the gasket 306242 which seperates the inner exhaust tube from the exhaust housing on the 1959 35hp and 1960 to 1970 40hp OMC outboards.
 

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Re: Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

forgive my ignorance but what is and where is spaghetti tubing used?
 

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Re: Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

It's the seal that's betwwen the two halves of a gear housing on older model outboards.
 

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Moderators, FAQ's ????
 

D0T-C0M

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Re: Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

Ok so I read more in the service manual and I have three products that it mentions,

OMC gasket sealer compound
OMC Adhesive M
OMC cleaning compound

If the 3M 847 replaces the adhesive M what do I use for the gasket sealer compound and what cleaner base is recommended?
 

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Re: Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

I have yet ever to use a gasket cleaning compound BUT that is a spray solvent that one can purchase at your dealership.

I have always been successful by carefully using a putty knife like gasket scraper that has a very sharp edge, then cleaning the surface with either lacquer thinner or acetone.

The gasket sealing compound can be purchased at any automotive parts type store, Wal*Mart, K-Mart, your dealership, just about anywhere. It is normally found in a 16 ounce can that has a brush attached to its screw off cap.
 

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Re: Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

I've used Permatex # 3 in place of the gasket sealing compond.
 

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Re: Anyone have a cross reference for the OMC sealants,greases,adhesives etc.

Thanks for all the replies guys!!!
 
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