Re: Apparently our borders remain as porous as ever
mmm let me think, I am gonna walk or hop a train from central america, most likly getting robbed of any money or food to get to the mexican border only to die in the arozonia dessert.<br /> now I am gonna do this strictly to suckle the federal teat. <br />what a crock.<br /><br /> a better immigration policiy would be to re write CAFTA and NAFTA and but some teeth bones in them.<br /> the way its written insures incredible poverty and suffering in mexico and south america, if a person gets desperate enough they will head north.<br /> US policy, drivin by biddness intrests have raped mexico and central america,<br /> thats why our manufacturing and Assembly plants as well as textiles have all headed south. no pay,no bennies, no worker protections cheap slave labor no environmental laws and no enforcement on the feebles ones in place and the US CEO makes a killing and the corperate bottom line looks good.<br /> in most mexican,hondouran and even chinese labor"camps" if a machine bites off a workers arm the worker is fired, no workmans comp, no unemployment and not even severance pay. in some cases if the machine was damaged the workers last check is witheld to offset the damage to company property.<br /> not a man or woman posting on this board would do any different than most the illegals currently heading north.<br /> no amount of fences,dogs or border guards are gonna slow it down.<br />just aint gonna happen.<br /> most posters here I really dont think have ever gone south and seen poverty, we have NO poverty in the states.<br /> we may have poor folk, they have poverty.<br /> that getto homey in NY or the bum in san fran may not have much but odds are good they wont starve, in central and south america starvation is a daily reality.<br /> most americans I chat with have no clue how conditions are outside the US border and assume its just like the US. well folks its not.<br /> we gotta get intern chasers and cocaine cowboys out of our govt and get somebody in that can address the issue.<br /> while enforcement of or current laws would have been nice ,and its all clintons fault for the lax enforcement the past 6 years, enforcement alone wont help and will become very costly.<br /> I read an article by the US Immigration that said if they accepted no more applications and reviews this year they would not finnish processing the current backlog until about 2015.<br /> thats just not acceptable or as acceptable as 5% container screening or the fact the US owns less than .1% of the maritime container shipping.<br />so unless the US bucks big money and writes a rade policy that will force compliance as well as allow the US worker to compete its gonna continue I dont care who is the current postuing buffoon.<br /> its been illegal to hire non-documented workers since I entered the workforce in the 70's.<br /> however I have worked in various machine shops and factories beside non-citizens that were in the US illegally since the 70's.my payenvelope had a check with the amounts of various deductions, theirs contained a stack of bills.<br />I was working a machine shop in the Ft Worth area and immigration showed up, the shop went from about 40 to 5 and us 5 were chasing about shutting off machines while the other 35 or so were headed out the back towards the wood line. was a comman occurence yet that shop never paid a dime in fines.<br /> each and every border patrol agent costs me and you 100,000 dollars a year or so to train,equip, insure and pay their salary. in 20 years they will be on the permmanant public dole at age 55 or so. by the time they die each of us will have paid over 1 million dollars to each agent.<br /> yep thats what we need is 500 more agents and the attendant beurocracy that goes with it.<br /> dont ya think it would be better to rewrite the trade policy to maybe keep more cash there than funnel it back to the corperate headquaters and take away the incentive to brave a dessert border crossing?<br /> they are just like us, lazy.<br /> however unlike us they are gonna starve to death unless they head north and they know it, desperation drives it not the desire to leave family and friends for a cakewalk through the mexican and US desert.just like standing watch on a ship, once you assume the watch it does not matter who left the magazine door unlocked its the watchstanders responsibility,<br /> the current administration has been an incredible failure both pre and post 9/11. its been nothing but posturing,spinning and self flagellation.<br /> the current administartion is shaping up to go down in history as the worst yet.<br /> you freemarket folks are funny to watch, today I installed a trim harness and two relays on a 1998 EFI 150 merc. any guesses were the parts were ASSEMBLED? a hint, Fun Do Lack was not on the package. so until we reighn in big business the problems will continue to grow, more folks will die and middle class america will suffer and pay for that CEO's aruban or panamainian condo.<br /> I urge each and every one of you to step outside the US border to the south and see for yourself.<br />its terrible how corperate greed driven US policy has wiped out thousands and is accelerating.<br /> this is not gleaned from FOX or CNN but from direct observation of a very small part of the outconus places I have been so far.<br /> you can call them illegals,spics,wetbacks or whatever derogatory you wish, it does not negate the fact they are human beings and live,love,bleed and die just like every other human on the planet regardless of skin color or place of birth. or at least thats what the king james version says, unless the king james version only applies to white persons of european descent. if so excuse my mis interpetation.<br /> trust me, the average honduran or mexican or south american would gladly stay home if they could actually live. the weather is wonderful year round, hurricanes are rare and you dont need walls cause its always warm. the fishing is outrageous, the closer to the equator you get the less the amount of daylight changes the hunting is spactacular. yep I would leave all that for a 1500 mile trek through the unknown to a place I could not speak the language with everything I owned in a back pack so I could suckle a public teat.<br />most folks I know wont walk 4 blocks to the 7-11 to pick up another 12 pack much less walk 1000 miles to get a 4 dollar an hour job with absolutly no worker protections or medical insurance.<br /> think about it the next time you see a polititian flagellate.