auto insurance dillema

stl

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I need some advice. Three weeks ago my wife was rear ended on her way home from work. The damage to our new car is extensive but drivable. The Guy that hit her had a non owners policy through Affirmative Insurance. It has been three weeks and they have done nothing. They claim that the owner of the car should of had a policy and therefore that company is liable for the damages. They claim that the owner of the vehicle will not return their calls and when they did get a hold of him he hung up on them, therefore they are investigating who is liable. We have attempted to contact Affirmative Insurance numerous times and they will not return our calls. We have contacted they Missouri Department of Insurance regulations and they are following up on the matter. We have been reluctant to get our insurance company involved for fear of having our rate increased. My opinion is that Affirmative should pay for the damages that their insured caused and then they can re coop later if they are not liable. We have been driving a wrecked car for three weeks that I am not sure we should be driving at all. Any one have any advice? should we get our company involved? Any other suggestions?
 

WizeOne

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....should we get our company involved?...

Absolutely!. They will go to bat for you and get responses that you might not be able to get. In the end, if it is not your fault any decent insurance company will not raise you rates.

Call your insurance company/agent immediately.
 

Scaaty

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Do you have uninsured MOTORIST coverage?, cheap, and there are many others out there. Kinda know the "skinny" here. My brother INS biz years.
You are spitting at windmills here..front side, waiting for a return "wet"...call your agent NOW
 

kenmyfam

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Involve your insurance company. They will act on your behalf and if it is clearly not your fault then I doubt your rates would increase. (That is our personal experience with our insurer in Canada) I do not know about where you are.
 

TilliamWe

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Involve your insurance company. They will act on your behalf and if it is clearly not your fault then I doubt your rates would increase. (That is our personal experience with our insurer in Canada) I do not know about where you are.

That's pretty much the whole story right there. It would be a "non-chargeable loss" and in theory your carrier is going to get their payment back from either the car's insurance company or the other driver's carrier (Affirmative).

This is what you have insurance for, actually. Forget the uninsured part, the other driver had coverage at least. Not to mention the car should have had coverage.

Affirmative is correct. If the other car has coverage, they "can't" pay your claim. Now, as far as their insured hanging up on them, well, he's in direct violation of his policy, which requires him to cooperate in their investigation. But what you gonna do?
 

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Good information from the responders, but a question,

I have never heard of "non-owners" car insurance before. Is this something new? When would you use it?
 

Skiuseme

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A Named/ Non-ower Policy here in Wisconsin is a policy that people take out when they do not own a car, and when they need to show proof of "financial reponsebility". You are requeired to do this in many different cases IE: DUI, Accident without insurance, and too many speeding tickets ( just to name a few). This shows the state that you have insurance and you are able to get your SR-22 state filing so you can get an "occupational liscense" to drive back and forth to work with.

When someone has a Named/ Non-owner policy and they hit you, get Your company involved ASAP. Make sure you have your police documents ready and also document all phone calls to your company and to theirs.

Remember your insurance company has many lawyers and are not wanting to pay out for someone else's fault. They will make sure you are taken care of and remind them of that if they want to keep you.
 

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If he was driving (which he obviously was) then his non-owner insurance needs to pay. They insured him to drive anything and he's at fault. Get your insurance company involved.
 
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Dont forget that you are entitled to use a temporary car while yours is out of commision. Get your insurance agent involved and let him handle it. Thats why he makes the big bucks.
 

stl

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Thanks for the info. I guess we will call our agent on Monday. We were hesitant because I am sure it will cause a rate increase even though we we not at fault. Thats the way insurance companies work.
 

triumphrick

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The insurance companies used to call you "accident prone" if you had several accidents even tho not at fault. However with all the available comparison price quotes around they are starting to get a little more friendly. Some are even advertising "accident forgiveness" if you only have one every three years or so. Or so they are saying now, to get you to sign up. I would not hesitate to contact your agent. :rolleyes:
 

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Thanks for the info. I guess we will call our agent on Monday. We were hesitant because I am sure it will cause a rate increase even though we we not at fault. Thats the way insurance companies work.

If they raise their rates for this incident, there are 100 other insurance companies out there, that want your business, also.
 

TilliamWe

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Thanks for the info. I guess we will call our agent on Monday. We were hesitant because I am sure it will cause a rate increase even though we we not at fault. Thats the way insurance companies work.

No it isn't.
 

stl

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They may tell you that it won't have any effect on your rate, but it does. Every time you file a claim, whether its your fault or not it goes against you. If you are involved in an accident you are considered high risk, even if the accident is not your fault. I am just speaking from experience.
 
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Im not quick to say hire an attorney but be sure you know that most insurance companys wont pay anything unless they are forsed to. If you are in an accident and you give out your ID you then are in the data bank as being involved in an accident even if you dont file a claim. In all accident court cases the lawyer from the other side will ask you "have you ever been involved in any accident"? They know before they even ask you to see if you will lie. If caught in a lie your case goes south. just my 2 cents worth
 

stl

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Im not quick to say hire an attorney but be sure you know that most insurance companys wont pay anything unless they are forsed to. If you are in an accident and you give out your ID you then are in the data bank as being involved in an accident even if you dont file a claim. In all accident court cases the lawyer from the other side will ask you "have you ever been involved in any accident"? They know before they even ask you to see if you will lie. If caught in a lie your case goes south. just my 2 cents worth

So you are saying that my insurance company will know that we were involved in an accident even if we don't notify them?
 
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I dont think they will automaticaly notified but the insurance companys share all of the information as to who was involved etc. If you make a claim against another insurance company for something you were at no fault there still is a record. No big deal they dont jump up your rate unless you get points.
 
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I dont think they will be automaticaly notified but the insurance companys share all of the information as to who was involved etc. If you make a claim against another insurance company for something you were at no fault there still is a record. No big deal, they dont jump up your rate unless you get points.
 

TilliamWe

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fairlaneman, the information is not shared quite that freely! Do you have you house lined with tin foil, too???? :)
 

WizeOne

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They may tell you that it won't have any effect on your rate, but it does. Every time you file a claim, whether its your fault or not it goes against you. If you are involved in an accident you are considered high risk, even if the accident is not your fault. I am just speaking from experience.

I don't know who you deal with but for my insurance company it has to be a chargable event. Not only are my rates determined by this but I get an annual claim free rebate if I have no CHARGABLE events.
 
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