Baja Cruisers CC Recore or Replace

nickzlb77

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I am very much aware of what could be lurking below but it is different than construction I have seen and the main stringers appear to be sound. I have 3 other boats we use regularly all of which were completely redone (mechanically, electrically and cosmetically). I picked up this solely for the challenge and the peace the work brings me. Im not in a rush. Running a business in New York City these days isnt exactly stress free. I just want it to do it correctly

If this is more info than is needed I apologize in advance.

The deck is not sitting on the stringer grid (at least not what you would traditionally picture).

The boat used to be an IO. Between the back of the fuel tank and the engine compartment (no bulkhead between) there is basically a glassed 1x6 (see second picture below) sitting above the stringers and some foam (assume its fastened to the side of the hull but cannot see yet) Where the leaning post is sitting now is a large glass engine hatch with two small sections of the plywood "puzzle deck" alongside which will be removed as well.

Attached to that are two "stringers' for lack of a better term that support the deck up to where they are cut off before the forward deck (in front of the console and where hatches and anchor locker are) running alongside the fuel tank. Picture a "U-shape"

There is an unglassed piece of plywood on each side which fastens (see last pic below) these deck supports to the stringers. These pieces run the length of tank. If not for these plywood run these main supports would be "floating" for lack of a better term

The foam is a little rough but not damp in the few areas I dug out. And there is no major damage to the stringers in the sections I have checked thus far.

Given the funky construction Im considering building a proper grid for the deck to fasten to off of the main stringers.

There is understandably some play in those supports and it seems they were relying heavily on the top layer of glass to keep the deck up (which is likely why there are so many stress cracks around the deck.

The console, leaning post and other hardware were not sealed at all and is what seems to have to have led to the core completely rotting out. I have removed the majority of the core and cleaned most of the bottom layer.

My plan was to add a layer of 1708 to the bottom layer as its pretty thin. While wet lay in coosa bluewater 26 1/2" and lay 2 layers of 1708 over that (and tab it to the sidewalls) fair and gelcoat it. Other have said tear it all off. I can see the rot spreading to the stringers under normal circumstances but this being the case I am not so sure. Pics below. Has anyone seen a deck constructed quite like this?
 

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emoney

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I guess the first question I'd be asking myself is how do I know that all of this isn't the result of someone trying to cut some corners in previous repair? Baja boats were pretty well built back in the day (don't know anything about them now since they were bought out in 2016?) and I'd be surprised to learn they had placed dimensioned lumber and/or exposed plywood below the deck. I, for one, would pull it all out. It would be horrible to go through all that effort to find out the stringers are bad later.
 

nickzlb77

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Ah demo is fun. So rewarding when everything is out and clean. lol. Baja and Baha Cruisers are two different boats, this one the plant burnt to the ground (or was burnt to the ground lol). It looks original, it just doesnt make any sense to me. Even if the plywood may have been added later on the factory would have had to do something similar to keep the foam from spilling between the stringers and deck supports.

The deck is a good foot above the stringers so its I would need to come up with a good plan for framing out the deck correctly

Im thinking sistering sandwiched pieces of coosa and glassing them to the stringers. They would have to be about 18" tall to get up to the deck height.
 

emoney

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Why not just build new, taller stringers? My WAC had stringers about that tall. Coosa is a great option, that will make it a lifetime repair, that's for sure. I remember Baha Cruisers, they were a FLorida company. I had no idea they made a Center Console tho, I thought all they made were the big, cruiser/sport fisherman styles. That must be a pretty big boat. Whenyou're done it'll be nice though.
 
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nickzlb77

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Interesting! I hadnt thought of that and honestly wasnt sure if that was an option (no reasoning behind that just have never really seen them that tall in a relatively small boat. Also figured if that was an option why the hell wouldnt the factory have done that instead of relying primarily on the foam and the top later of glass (which is extremely thick to their credit) to hold the main deck up. I would think at that height its a lot of pressure on the tabbing of the stringers into the hull especially around the tank compartment which is huge (runs basically the entire deck between engine compartment and where the hatched fore deck starts.

So I think that's the plan then unless someone can think of a reason not to. Remove everything. Add new roughly 18" high stringers, add bulkheads between the old engine compartment and in front of the tank to the same height
 
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