petermarcus
Petty Officer 2nd Class
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So, it's raining sideways, which means no boat work right now, and I'm plotting the future a bit.
I have a '94 19' Bayliner Capri 1950, the deck is gone and the stringers are next. As the rain pours, I can see that it's just collecting in the below-deck space, outside the stringers. I had wet foam there, too.
I've been doing the foam debate for a couple weeks now. No foam, pourable foam, noodles, HD foam, etc.
I've seen where Oops says that Capris typically need pourable foam to support the hull (or adding a later of 1708 up the whole hull) and I've seen others mention drumming sounds if the foam isn't there. However, I don't want a situation where water can collect on the outboard side of the stringers again, no matter how well I glass the deck and stringers and transom.
So, I'm considering making drain holes in the stringers so the below-deck sections can drain into the bilge, but that opens another problem if the bilge ever gets full enough of water that it goes up the drain holes and wets the foam. I've even considered 3/4" PVC pipes running up the low-points of the below-deck sections, with small holes drilled in, so water can be channeled out. But, again, if the bilge temporarily gets more water in it than I can pump out, I've just shot water up the PVC pipes into the foam.
I guess I'm debating these options. Leaving aside floatability, and just concentrating on structural support:
* Pourable foam, but seal off the below-decks as watertight as possible. (Problem is, if I miss a spot and water gets in, it'll never get out).
* Pourable foam, but either drain holes through the stringers into the bilge or a PVC pipe system for drainage.
* Reinforce the hull with 1708 (weight...sigh) and either ignore the foam, or do something more water-forgiving like HD foam or noodles, and cut drain holes through the stringers into the bilge.
* Reinforce the hull with 1708, and keep everything empty vowing to never have anything to do with foam again.
Just how waterlogged will 2-part pourable foam get? If I drill holes through the stringers and a rogue wave dumps a couple feet of water in the bilge and gets the foam wet through the drain holes, will it drain out? I know 90+% of it is closed cell, but the foam I took out was pretty wet, though there wasn't any place for the water to drain out to.
I have a '94 19' Bayliner Capri 1950, the deck is gone and the stringers are next. As the rain pours, I can see that it's just collecting in the below-deck space, outside the stringers. I had wet foam there, too.
I've been doing the foam debate for a couple weeks now. No foam, pourable foam, noodles, HD foam, etc.
I've seen where Oops says that Capris typically need pourable foam to support the hull (or adding a later of 1708 up the whole hull) and I've seen others mention drumming sounds if the foam isn't there. However, I don't want a situation where water can collect on the outboard side of the stringers again, no matter how well I glass the deck and stringers and transom.
So, I'm considering making drain holes in the stringers so the below-deck sections can drain into the bilge, but that opens another problem if the bilge ever gets full enough of water that it goes up the drain holes and wets the foam. I've even considered 3/4" PVC pipes running up the low-points of the below-deck sections, with small holes drilled in, so water can be channeled out. But, again, if the bilge temporarily gets more water in it than I can pump out, I've just shot water up the PVC pipes into the foam.
I guess I'm debating these options. Leaving aside floatability, and just concentrating on structural support:
* Pourable foam, but seal off the below-decks as watertight as possible. (Problem is, if I miss a spot and water gets in, it'll never get out).
* Pourable foam, but either drain holes through the stringers into the bilge or a PVC pipe system for drainage.
* Reinforce the hull with 1708 (weight...sigh) and either ignore the foam, or do something more water-forgiving like HD foam or noodles, and cut drain holes through the stringers into the bilge.
* Reinforce the hull with 1708, and keep everything empty vowing to never have anything to do with foam again.
Just how waterlogged will 2-part pourable foam get? If I drill holes through the stringers and a rogue wave dumps a couple feet of water in the bilge and gets the foam wet through the drain holes, will it drain out? I know 90+% of it is closed cell, but the foam I took out was pretty wet, though there wasn't any place for the water to drain out to.
