better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

donberry

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Thought I might introduce myself as I will probably be asking a whole bunch of questions.
I am 50, a disabled vet, retired since 1992. Grew up fishing with my brother but never owned a boat myself. Moved down here to Tennessee from Ohio and live about 5 minutes from Tims Ford lake, 20 minutes to Woods Reservoir and maybe a half hour to Normandy.
I have had the itch for a while to get a boat and finally scrapped up a deal so I could get one. It is a Dynasty 190 Fish and Ski with a OMC 4.3L, paid $1100.00 for it. Previous owner replaced the flooring, did not know enough to ask about the stringers. I am going to take for granted he did replace them if they needed it as he did a real nice job on the floor. Came with a 24 volt foot controlled trolling motor. Took it out to the lake the 1st day I bought it (it was in the fifties so plenty warm enough). He said it had not been started for a couple of months, which is understandable since it was December. Backed her into the lake, cranked it over and it took about 5 seconds and she roared to life. Had a long idle to get out of the no wake zone (maybe a 1/4 mile) and opened her up - ran great. Loved it. Very smooth ride and much quieter then I am used to as I have always been in boats with an outboard motor. Nice smooth even wake. Loved everything about it.
I did notice though that there was quite a bit of water coming into the bilge. Had to pretty much keep turning on the bilge pumps (it has 2) every 10-15 minutes. Water never came up to touch the engine as I was pumping it that much.
So now that I know I really, really like the boat, I am going to try to actually repair it the right way.
On closer inspection, noticed the front engine mounts were sunken in, so they are shot and need replaced. I plan to pull the engine and repair that plus check out the transom to see if there is any wood rot in there. It sounds solid as heck, but it does have some stress cracks on the bottom below the outdrive, so probably a good chance I need replace it. I would love to use Seacast (which I just learned of this week, but finances will probably dictate I use fiberglassed plywood.
Going to build an A-frame hoist out of wood to lift the engine. Just ordered an OMC alignment tool.
I am a jack of all trades, master of none and have pretty much always repaired my own cars except for the electronics. Biggest thing for me is learning the names of everything and where it is located.
Going to try to get it in my garage so I will be warmer while working on it, but going to have to rearrange it to get the boat to fit.
If all the repairs go as planned, I also plan to paint the boat by next fall. Of course since they say gas will be going up to $5.00 a gallon this year, good chance I will not be hitting top speed much (I had it up to 38 mph). For me it will be used mainly for fishing, but my daughter-in-law loves boats, tubing etc, which is why I like this boat because it will fit everyone in when needed, but still has the fishing platforms.
No pics of it because it is covered and kind of a pain to get the cover back on.

Any how, my life story and a warning to be prepared for a bunch of some times stupid questions. I learn rather quickly when someone is showing me how to do it, not quite so fast when I am reading it and figuring it out on my own. I will apologize up front for the questions to come, and also thank you ahead of time for your patience and knowledge.
Just know I am going to give her my best effort and you will have a hand in it's restoration......
 

1fishbone

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Re: better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

Welcome to iboats!

Good first post!
Put your location in your profile, there may be someone close to you.
Make sure they promise not to drink your last beer!

There is a lot of restorations going on here...read..read...read!
The search functions can use " Quotes" for phases like "best oil" "best decking"


FYI you make more friends and get more responses with PICTURES !!!
We love pictures, in fact, some of us LIVE for them!

Welcome, good luck and thank you for your service and sacrifice for our country!
 
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Re: better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

Don,

Welcome to iBoats! As Fish said great first post and I second a big thank you for your service to our country.

In reading your post I have a few questions. What year is your boat? Does it have a cobra outdrive? Did you ever confirm where the water was coming from in the bilge? From the sounds of it don't be surprised if you are in for a full resto. But we will be here to help you through all the steps. Keep us posted.
 

Woodonglass

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Re: better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

Welcome to iBoats!!!
First off, THANKS for your Service to our COUNTRY!!!!
Second you need to find where the water is coming from or all the work that has been done will go to waste. Water in the bilge is a serious "No-NO" at least that much is!!! Post some pics, they really help us to help you. My signature line has an easy method to post em. I'm not much on Inboards but there are a LOT of guys on here that ARE so you will have lots of help.

Good luck!!

I'm just sayin...:D
 

proshadetree

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Re: better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

Howdy neighbor. Cookeville Tennessee here. Welcome to Iboats. Post some pics if you can and lets see what kind of drive you have. Hope you did not get snowed in today
 

69rrvert

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Re: better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

Welcome to the forum and thanks for service and keeping us free. There are a lot of good folks here ready to help you out. Our resident goto fiberglass guru guy here is "oops". Thanks, Steven
 

texasabil

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Re: better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

Welcome to iboats I myself just signed up. but I would time and time again come to the site and just read until I found my problem. well I decided to sign up and glad I did the people on here are great they had me going in no time!!! And a big thank you from texas for your Service to our Country!!!!:D
 

donberry

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Re: better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

thanks for the welcome. I figure this forum is a lot like a vintage audio forum I frequent - besides all of the help you get, it reminds you that no matter what the news tells you, there are still a ton of good people around
Pictures - as I mentioned, I frequent a vintage audio forum so I understand all about pictures...Only reason I did not post any is the weather. It does not have a cover specifically for the model boat so it is not the quickest thing to get on and off. When it gets back into the 40's I will pull the cover off and get some pics. I REALLY need to get my other garage cleaned out so I can also work on some cosmetics. I promise to get some pics asap :D

What year is your boat? Does it have a cobra outdrive? Did you ever confirm where the water was coming from in the bilge? From the sounds of it don't be surprised if you are in for a full resto.
The boat is a 1988 Dynasty fish & ski with a 4.3L OMC engine. I have not checked the serial number on the outdrive yet, but as it says Cobra on the trim cylinders, I believe it is a pretty safe bet it is a Cobra outdrive.
No, I could not verify where the water was coming in. I bought it the last week of December and only had it out the day I got it. I tried to see where it was coming in from, but could not pinpoint it exactly. Did not know at the time, but after doing a bunch of reading, seems to me it was coming in around the u-joint bellows, or at least in that area.
As for the full resto - guy I bought it from had replaced all of the floor. Again, I did not know enough about it to ask about the stringers, but I would be really surprised if they were rotted and he did not repair them. On the things I know he did repair, he did not cut any corners and did a real nice job.
As I mentioned in my first post, after my 1st and only ride, I believe this is a boat that will keep me happy for a long, long time. Big enough to take my son and his wife and 2 kids for a pleasure cruise, tubing etc (kids are only 3 and 1 1/2) and set up great for fishing. I just mention this because it seems like it will fit my needs to a t, I am going to try and do this right (which means I will be asking some silly questions at times).

Not knowing anything about boats, I thought I was just going to pull the outdrive, replace the bellows and wait for some warmer days. But now, after spending all of my time pouring over how to articles, posts etc, I see that would have just been a half arsed job, so is why I decided to go ahead and pull the transom assembly and do a very thorough inspection of the transom. Any doubt at all about the wood and it is coming out (tho I did not realize I have a "cap" to contend with.....that sux).
Is why I was not all too concerned about a critical inspection of where the water was coming in at. Actually, I was tinkering with it today and one of the plugs in the transom was actually too small for the hole and am surprised it did not just fall out (I have no idea what that hole is there for, looks stock). I have no doubt that water was coming in that hole and it could very well be the entire leak.....but I still want to go ahead and pull everything to inspect the transom. I would rather catch anything wrong now and keep this boat running for a long time. Doubtful I find another boat that runs as good and suits my needs as well and due to my "not poor by any means but not rolling in dough" income, I can just take my time and do it right and make this the last boat I ever own. One thing I do have is time. It may not ever be the prettiest boat in the lake, but as long as she floats safely and keeps running as well as it does now, I will be a happy guy.
I did not know it at the time, but it looks as tho I also have to repair the front engine mounts as they have sank down a little. It will just give me more time to familiarize myself with the boat. Decided I am going to build a wooden A-frame hoist so I do not have any time constraints like I would have if I rented a hoist. Ordered my alignment tool today.
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Biggie for me is I am hoping to have it done by April, but if i don't, I don't. Biggest thing will not be so much the repairs themselves, but I only have so much cash to spend per month on it. I am actually selling some audio gear to give me more cash for this. Biggie is just researching everything and taking my time to insure it is structually sound - the paint job can come later......I want it for crappie season....:D

Okay, as u can see, I can be very verbose at times. I will try to refrain from here on out - just my introductory blabbering.

If anyone happens to live near Tullahoma, feel free to swing by the house - I am sure you can teach and show me something.....dinner , music and the beer is on me.....
 

proshadetree

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Re: better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

Beer? I be there in 15 minutes. I did not pull the cap on my baylinner. Some boats you do and some you dont. I have a 1975 Sidewinder that will have to come apart for a transom replace. Take some pics and someone here will give you some insight.
 
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Re: better introduce myself as I will be asking a bunch of questions

Don,

Thanks for the additional info. The reason I asked about the outdrive was specifically for the bellows issue. I was going to suggest checking the bellows because it sounded from your discription of the leak that like they could be the cause.

Regarding the stringers, I would point blank ask the previous owner about them and if he repaired them when he did the deck. Friscoboater (Jay) is going through a rebuild now where the deck had beeen replaced and everything looked great. However, everything was rotted below the deck anyway. So the point of the story is do not fall prey to denial. Verify. Especially since it could make a big difference in your approach to fixing things. With all hope maybe all you have to attend to are the enigine mounts. Good luck and keep us posted.
 
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