Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

Kenneth Brown

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LOS ANGELES - Dec 29, 2005 - In the wee hours of the morning on Jan. 17, another man will be put to death by lethal injection in the State of California. This comes exactly 36 days after the execution of Stanley Tookie Williams. But where are the protesters?<br />With less than a month to go before the scheduled execution of a 76-year-old blind, deaf and wheelchair-confined man, there has been no public outcry of support for clemency for Clarence Ray Allen, a non-black. There's been no planned protests and celebrity read-ins in support of saving an old man's life. Community activists and civil rights leaders aren't organizing statewide tours to bring attention to Allen's execution. There hasn't even been one "Kill Clarence Ray Allen Hour" from KFI-AM'S "John and Ken Show."<br /><br />Which raises the question: Was the community cry for clemency for Williams because he was a black man, or was it because the death penalty is immoral, inhumane and cruel?<br /><br />Granted, Allen hasn't written any children's books, been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize, or had a Hollywood actor play him in a film, but that doesn't mean his life isn't worth saving.<br /><br />The fight for clemency should not have died with Stanley Tookie Williams. With two more executions scheduled in the New Year, including Michael Morales, who was convicted at the age of 21 for the rape and murder of a 17-year-old female, now is not the time for all of Williams' supporters to retreat back to their separate corners of the world. In fact, it's time for the opposite. We need to get back into action and show the world that the fight for clemency for Williams was not solely based on the fact that he was a black man but rather that he was a man who did not deserve to have his life prematurely taken from him, no matter how heinous were the crimes that he was accused of committing.<br /><br />Californians are very close to establishing a moratorium on the death penalty. Although the vote didn't come soon enough to save Williams' life, our work today and through the 10th of January, when an assembly committee plans to consider the legislation, could aid in saving the lives of many condemned prisoners, including blacks, while a state panel reviews the system.<br /><br />Black Californians who supported clemency for Williams need to re-examine their reasons for wanting Williams to live. Was it because he was a black man? Was it because he co-founded the Crips? Was it because of his anti-gang and anti-drug work? Or was it because we abhor the death penalty?<br /><br />Allen poses no significant risk. Blind, deaf and wheelchair-bound, it's very unlikely that he will be ordering the killing of anyone if left to live his remaining days on death row.<br /><br />Many of the black leaders who supported clemency for Williams vehemently denied they were racists when challenged by a pair conservative radio DJs in Los Angeles who sponsored the repulsive "Kill Tookie Hour." Accusing the black leadership of getting involved in the fight to save Williams only because he was black, the shock jocks noted that these same activists were going to be nowhere to be found when the next execution of a non-black person came up.<br /><br />If all of the protests around clemency for Williams were not just for show, it should be no problem for the black community to reassemble for the fight to save Clarence Ray Allen. He may not have been our homeboy from back in the day, or demonstrated to the world that he is a redeemed man. He may not even be likeable, but his life is worth trying to save even if he's not black. What kind of message does it send if we sit back and do nothing while another person was systematically put to death on our watch?
 

Kenneth Brown

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

Ya, its kinda too late but that was part of the point.
 

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

Whats to troll about? Inject him, thats what the jury ordered. I cant help it if the state has drug thier feet for 20 years. Hasnt got a thing to do with black or white it has to do with the law. If the people of Kalefornia dont have the guts to carry out the death sentence, then repeal the law.
 

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

:) You brought forward some very good points!!!<br /><br />Where are the do gooders whether "BLACK" or white !!! If they are truely against the death penalty,where are they now, where are the movie stars????<br /><br />This man took innocent lives , he deservers to die, regardless of his condition!!!! ;) :cool:
 

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

Oh I agree he should DIE but where are the do gooders as you say? I reckon there not needed cuz he's a whitey, and everybody knows whitey deserves it. Black folks don't need punishment because they are already "oppressesd" Oh please!<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />Todays post brought to you by the former member Kenny Big B Brown. A slight mix of German, Dutch, English, Swede, and yep, even a little bit of Native American.
 

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

Originally posted by Kenneth Brown:<br /> Oh I agree he should DIE but where are the do gooders as you say? I reckon there not needed cuz he's a whitey, and everybody knows whitey deserves it. Black folks don't need punishment because they are already "oppressesd" Oh please!<br /><br /> Gee KB sounds kinna raciest. I agree but raciest none the less.<br /> Im a raciest, I believe that every thing should be equal between the races, black white green or purple. Nothing special to anyone.<br /><br /> Only exception being if you have more horsepower than me , and the weight is the same, your gona have to spot me a car-length or so. ;) <br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />]
 

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

it is popular today to pander to the negros. <br /><br />thank you KB for the guts to post this.<br /><br />BTW, i is not racist. equal consideration and respect for all from me.
 

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

If the law said he gets the death chair or injection, then he should get it. His victim did not have any rights. I am sorry but this is a sore spot to me. If you are guilty of killing someone, then they need to be put down like the dog they are. It should not make a difference what color you are.
 

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

Double stupid incorrect post reply from Tyme. My bad
 

Tyme2fish

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

Oops, wrong post.
 

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

Originally posted by pjc:<br />[QB] it is popular today to pander to the negros. <br /><br /><br />A minor correction is in order. Plural of Negro is Negroes. This is a common mistake made, much like Dan Quayle in his spelling of potato,(no "e") at the end of of the singular potato.<br /><br />Progress has been made. Not negro, not colored,not Afro-American, I think this decade's preference is to pronounce the correct title as "Black". Am I incorrect?<br />Wait a few more years and we shall have a new "name" to refer to people of color. <br /><br />If Mayor Nagin comes to the front as a new leader we may have to refer to Negroes as Chocolates.<br /> :)
 

Kenneth Brown

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

People of color? I'm blue when I'm sad, red when mad, brown when in the sun too long, pink when everythings just right, and have a red neck. And you say them are the people of color huh?!
 

Kenneth Brown

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

Ya HC I reckon it does. Sorry about that. Tis true you know, at least thats what they (the Negroes) claim.
 
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We do NOT have a Justice system, we have a LEGAL system. The law can be twisted, turned and interpreted to whatever the case at hand needs. Judges can throw out evidence for the simplest mistake (legal-not justice)) on the prosecution side.<br /><br />As far as black and white. It's a numbers issue, nothing else. It boils down to the number of arrests/convictions, etc.<br /><br />But, facts seem to bewilder the American populace thanks to Hollywood and the media.<br /><br />I think that throwing out a "statement" that blacks fare worse in the legal system than whites is race baiting-at best.<br /><br />Proof: Some of the most high profile cases, of late, have found blacks acquitted/settled. (OJ-Bryant).<br /><br />Some would say that money talks, it does in the "legal" system. However, the average white guy gets fried just as often (statistically) as the black guy. <br /><br />Again, the numbers.
 

Kenneth Brown

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Re: Black vs White and the death penalty, yep, its a troll

So why aren't all of the "save-a-killa"'s in an uproar?
 
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