Boat Handling 101

86 century

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Re: Boat Handling 101

Wow

I would imagine a rig that size is direct or v drive if its any thing like mine they would have been better of to pull ahead with the helm hard over starboard should have swung the stearn around.

This is a gess so correct me if im wrong.
 

smokeonthewater

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actually that's what they tried but with a stern wind and the bow tied it wasn't gonna happen..... bow tied as it was, port forward, stbd reverse and helm hard starboard with a healthy dose of throttle (a bit more reverse than forward) might have saved it but best bet would be to cut the bow loose asap and bring the stern in first.... captain wasn't ever in control of the boat or the crew....

EDIT: or did you mean to do that before tying the bow? if so then yeah, spot on
 

wgl333

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Plus, those fenders are serving that vessel well stuck in their holders on the rail!
 

Home Cookin'

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the big clue was that they approached wearing the UOLV's. Sure sign of amateurs.

Looks like a 27' boat in a 27' canal. but if they raised the water to full, the bow would stick over and give them a couple feet!
 

Mischief Managed

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Re: Boat Handling 101

A few fenders on the port bow and port side combined with the bow line made fast to the lock wall or to the bow cleat (it was doubled back to the boat but not attached) and they could have easily used the bow dock line combined with gentle (in and out of gear) forward thrust with the wheel hard to starboard to spring right up to the lock wall.

That's a lot more than a 27 foot boat. Closer to 37 foot, maybe more. They were headed downstream , so the lock was as full as it's going to get.
 

NSBCraig

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if it was single engined he could have gone hard port in reverse, the bow line would go tight and swing the boat over to the wall.

And at least the have their PDF's!
 

etracer68

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I would say about 38ft, and if my dad ever seen me use the wheel docking, he would have thru me overboard. Im sure it has twins, but then again, maybe he had a screw out. My dad showed me how to move his 38ft tri cabin CC, in the river, with a good wind, without ever touching the wheel. You can turn a twin screw boat on a dime, but its takes pratice too. My dads 78, stills rides his harley, and his buddies always ask him to go boating yet, just so they can, hand him the helm, when they get where there going. I still love watching the big boats come in to dock, the old salties really know what there doing.
 

86 century

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actually that's what they tried but with a stern wind and the bow tied it wasn't gonna happen..... bow tied as it was, port forward, stbd reverse and helm hard starboard with a healthy dose of throttle (a bit more reverse than forward) might have saved it but best bet would be to cut the bow loose asap and bring the stern in first.... captain wasn't ever in control of the boat or the crew....

EDIT: or did you mean to do that before tying the bow? if so then yeah, spot on

Yes I did

One you tie the bow games over.
 

26aftcab454

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the wind was blowing him in--no control--if Bubba on the stern could have thrown his line to the person on the lock it would have been cool!

always tie off wind/currnet end 1st--and reverse order to leave dock:facepalm:
 

CaptainKickback

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What amazes me is that just because a person has the money for a boat that size, there is nothing stopping a new skipper from buying one and taking it out. An all too familiar scenario where I boat.

IMO, the first mistake was not buying a much smaer boat!
 

smokeonthewater

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I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that the owner wasn't there..... bet that was daddy's boat
 

wgl333

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My big concern is he is heading out to open water......is there a video of them actually RETURNING???
 

90stingray

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Bubba on the stern could have thrown his line to the person on the lock it would have been cool!

Someone should have told that idiot to throw the line... maybe anyone on the shore or perhaps the gentleman running that rig. But yes, he could have saved everything and probably there would have never been a video posted of this...
 

soggy_feet

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The camera was rolling before they ever got close to the lock... Did someone announce when the show was starting?
 

snake77

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if it was single engined he could have gone hard port in reverse, the bow line would go tight and swing the boat over to the wall.

And at least the have their PDF's!

This was my thought during that whole thing, well that and no fenders hanging wow.
 

smokeonthewater

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(normal) inboard/vdrive boats don't steer in reverse.... the only way to get steerage while backing is to have an engine in forward or be moving fast.
 

bekosh

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That video shows why I never tie off to a bow cleat when approaching the dock. I use a spring line off the mid cleat. If they had tied a spring line to the mid cleat instead of off the bow, the boat would have swung in parallel to the dock instead of the stern kicking out. Then you tie off the bow and/or stern lines.
http://www.cruising.sailingcourse.com/animated_gifs/mid_ship_line.gif
 
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