Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

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jdlough

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Well dang,

So,
Didn't know if I should put this in Repair, Restoration, or just Stupid Human Tricks.
I tie up my maybe 40 year old Beall wooden skiff and 90's Merc 8HP outboard real good to my my new-and-improved pier (new post installed inside the 'L' to give a 4 corner boat tie-up, see first pic). This is on a river, right where it dumps into the Chesapeake Bay. All is good. Weather easy.
I head over to my condo in Ocean City, to batten it down real good for the mini-hurricane. Sure, it's a bit windy there, but just tourists on the beach taking pics of the big waves, no big deal, deck furniture is secure. I return to home, to find just the fan, 'cuz the sh*t washed away....

1st clue - stalled in driveway due to H20.
2nd clue - slipped on a jellyfish in my friggen yard.
3rd clue - Dude! Where's my boat?
4th un-needed mocking clue - Osprey catching fish in my yard. Couple of good-sized ones, too!

So, I wade out to the pier. Pier boards are popping up under my feet from the waves. (Just last month I was annoyed with the Pier Building Idiot & Son Company for building my pier about 4' too high.... Well, in this one (and only one) instance they may have been right. Water higher than I've ever seen it.

Anyway, Leaky is capsized. Occasionally I see a bit of just the upside down bow poking up, so apparently the motor is still attached, dragging the stern down. Then the last line to the bow snaps and the stern pops up and the boat is now totally free, so it appears the motor dropped off at that point. Of course, now I realize that last week I replaced the bow eye-bolt, but didn't bother to reattached the anchor, so now the anchor's gone and the boat can now feel free to drift about the bay as a navigation hazard with my brand new friggin registration number on it's upside-down hull. Nothing I could do. Big water is serious business. Fortunately, my boat has decided to just bash itself inside of the new 'L' and piling. It's bashing up quite nicely. Might save me some work later. Did I mention my toolbox I left on the boat when I installed the new eye-bolt? Toolbox for sale, too. The PFDs were a bit mildewed, anyway.

So, I have a fair idea where the motor is. Should I bother trying to retrieve and save it, or just drag it out away from the pier and attach a bouy for a mooring point? I don't really NEED it, since the boat's bashing itself up now, and anyway I have a spare 15 HP, but no more skiff. I just had that sucker running real good, too.

Sell it on craigslist, 'U find, U haul'? It's still under brackish water now, and will be for about 12 hours before I can get it out, so I need to decide real soon.

One good thing, my wife glanced at it, and says, 'We're gonna need a bigger boat.'

Yep,

Thanks,
Jim
 

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DrCox

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

Jim, man I feel for you.

but, as I am a glass half full man may I please lighten your spirits by saying what a fine job you did keeping the underside fo your hull clean? You never know when good work like that will "turn up" so to speak.

On your problem, If you are mechanically inclined I cannot see why you cant retrieve your motor, strip it down to parade rest, clean and rebuild it. Sure it will take some time but is metal (nothing electrical) really going to be toast after a few days of submersion?

Agan I am newb...so I may be completly off base.

Again I am sorry, Big High Five to your wife for suggesting a bigger boat, She's a keeper!

-DrCox
 

jdlough

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

One minor update...

I don't have a lot of time to fool with this, because in 3 weeks, my daughter will be getting married here, actually they will be standing on the land-side of the pier, with about 80 of us in the now under 2' of water yard. I have some competence with tools (my wife and I built that not-quite-finished red house you see in one of the pics, but I have yet to disassemble an OB) So, at best I think I can maybe submerge the retrieved OB in a huge tub of freshwater to protect it for a few weeks until I can get to it.

Stupid question... Suppose I do drop the motor in a tub of freshwater for a couple of weeks to attempt to preserve it til I get to it.... Would it be dumb to pull the starter cord a few times to 'flush out' the salt water, or do you think I should just leave it, hoping that the salt hasn't gotten to the important bits.

This may all be moot. I think the motor was upside-down dragging itself around on the sand/muck bottom while the boat was busy bashing up my shiny new pier. But just to be clear, the motor has no electronics (as far as I know), and is just a basic pull-start 12 year old 8HP, without the gas tank attached.

Thanks for your sympathy, or ridicule,

Jim

BTW, tip for anyone building their own house: Anything to do with DRYWALL sucks worse than everything else in the entire house combined. Not kidding, dig your own septic tank/field with a spoon, hire someone else for drywall.
 

mlukich

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

While I have no advise about your motor, I do feel ya with the drywall... Working with that stuff just plain sucks... Good luck with the motor. I think I'd pull it and clean it just to see what happens.

Mark
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

this is what the manual says:

submergedmotor.jpg


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TBarCYa

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

this is what the manual says:

How often does this happen that there's a section in the manual about it? That's hysterical!

BTW, sorry about the problems you're having. I'm laughing at the manual, not at you. :)
 

freddyray21

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

by law you have to retrieve the outboard whether you intend to do anything with it or not. At least that is my understanding.
 

Uraijit

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

Man, that stinks!

Having helped my father build a 5000 sq ft house, I can say that there are a LOT worse things to do than drywall. Fiberglass insulation, for one! That is the one and ONLY job that I would never do in building a house.

Wide-plank hardwood flooring is also NOT fun. It tore the hell out of my knees, even at 17. To this day, my knees still pop when is stand up from a kneeling position.

Drywall isn't fun, but it's not so bad once you get the hang of it...

Good luck with finishing the building of your house. I know that I and my tax dollars are looking forward to insuring it... :rolleyes:
 
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DJ

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Salvage it and dunk it in fresh water. Your chances of its survival are pretty slim. However, they may be a few good pieces to sell on ebay. Namely, the lower unit. It should be fine.
 

drewmitch44

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

How often does this happen that there's a section in the manual about it? That's hysterical!

BTW, sorry about the problems you're having. I'm laughing at the manual, not at you. :)

every OB ive owned and bought new there is this almost same section. I think it happens quite often when you buy a new outboard.
 

jdlough

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

Well that was fun.

I went out at low tide with a 12' 2x6 to flip the boat over. Turns out the motor was still attached, but without its cowling. I found that later when I stepped on it. The boat's in better shape than I expected. A chunk of the bow gunwale gone, extra large eyebolt hole ripped thru transom, and center bench torn out (the anchor rope had wrapped around the bench and tied itself into a very clever nautical-type knot).

So, the boat is salvageable, but won't be pretty. In fact it may be the most embarrassing boat any poster will ever admit to here on iBoats.

I soaked the motor in fresh water for a couple of hours while dealing with the boat. I didn't have much hope, since it was upside down dragged around in the sand all night without a cowling. One of the sparkplugs was snapped. I followed most of tashasdaddy's manual. I didn't remove the carb due to no time, no manual, no carb skill, and not much hope. A lot of water came out thru the sparkplug holes when I cranked it. I let it set in various positions, hoping to drain the carb somewhat. This maybe worked, somewhat, because with new plugs the motor starts, idles rough for maybe 15 seconds, then dies.

So, that's where it stands now. I may try some car gas additive that's supposed to remove water condensation, then maybe attempt a carb rebuild.

Thanks for your help and commiserations,

Jim

And regarding insulation installation being worse than drywall? I wouldn't know. My wife and daughter did 95% of the insulation instal, but I do seem to recall some grumbling.
 

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Willyclay

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

And I thought I had the ONLY wife on the planet who recommended we get a bigger boat! Sorry about your storm damage. I had some dead shrimp in the yard once but that was surpassed by the live rattlesnake in the utility room. My emergency plan did not include those items. Have a friend who planned their son's wedding in a setting like yours. A few hours before the event, a violent thunderstorm blew everthing into the lake. Maybe your future son-in-law has some mechanical skills you can use. Once got a submerged Johnson 18HP running after one hour with lots of freshwater and WD-40. Good luck!
 

marine4003

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

Jim, as a Marine Contractor having installed tons of "fixed docks" may i suggest investing in some mooring whips, this way you have 4 attachment points for docking,(and a good bilge pump) That's the only issue with standing docks there's no way to tie off "hard" having to allow for tide,often leaves too much slack and allows boat to bang around...especially on a "L" setup.sorry for your troubles.
 

Joe_the_boatman

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

....I let it set in various positions, hoping to drain the carb somewhat. This maybe worked, somewhat, because with new plugs the motor starts, idles rough for maybe 15 seconds, then dies....

The carb has a drain screw, doesn't it? That'd be the easy way to get the water out. Running rough for 15 seconds and cutting off sounds like water in the carbs.

Congrats on the rescue effort this far, though.
 

TommyA

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That last picture sure looks peaceful. Sorry about the troubles but I believe that with some disassembly and cleaning you can get that engine running again. However you need to do it as soon as possible like the manual reads. Get you several cans of WD40 and start spraying everything you can. The WD40 displaces the salt water and leaves a film in its place.
 

jdlough

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

"The carb has a drain screw, doesn't it?"

I wish I knew that yesterday.

Thanks, I'll be trying that.

Jim
 

PhatboyC

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

I enjoyed your humor writing about an event like this. Keep it up shell be back in no time.
 

JoeCrow

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Re: Boat sank. OB 4 Sale. U (find and) Haul!!!

Those "Acts of God" really stick it in and break it off don't they?
 
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