Boat tackle?

[Norboo]

I surfed around and seems g-Loomis Pro-Blue series seems like a very good rod for striper fishing on a boat. I plan on fishing Potomac River and the Chesapeake.

I am thinking about Pro-Blue 7' 12-25 Fast. What conventional reel should I pair it with?
G-Loomis Pro-Blue ok to use with braid?

any thoughts on:
Avet SX 5.3:1 Magic Cast Single Speed Reel?

 

[dingbat]

Re: Boat tackle?

The rod in question is a standup rod. Way to “stout” for a casting rod and too light for a trolling blank.

Most guys fish #10-17, Fast action, med. Hvy blanks for Stripers. Trolling, you'll want #30 or #30-50 class rod.

You would be better served with Lamiglas inshore rod and a 6500 Sport mag on it.

 

[R Socey]

Re: Boat tackle?

There are a plethora of outfits you can use: What kind of boat fishing are you going to do? Will you be casting, trolling, baitfishing, livelining etc? Use can use braid. I like Avet reels because they all come in left or right hand crank!

 

[dingbat]

Re: Boat tackle?

There are a plethora of outfits you can use: What kind of boat fishing are you going to do? Will you be casting, trolling, baitfishing, livelining etc? Use can use braid.

Humm.....I've been using the same rod to cast, baitfish and liveline for Stripers. Have I been doing it wrong all these years? Do I really need different rods for each method?

What about braid? Does braid or mono dictate rod selection?

 

[R Socey]

Re: Boat tackle?

Humm.....I've been using the same rod to cast, baitfish and liveline for Stripers. Have I been doing it wrong all these years? Do I really need different rods for each method?

What about braid? Does braid or mono dictate rod selection?

You can use a YO YO for everything - there is no wrong way to fish inside the law.
Norboo wants to know if he can use braid with the G-loomis.
It could as the real cheap rods have guides which are inapposite for use with braid.

 

[dingbat]

Re: Boat tackle?

It could as the real cheap rods have guides which are inapposite for use with braid.

I have no idea where that idea came from, but it's absolutely not true today. As a Rod Smith and owner of a custom rod shop, I can tell you that even the cheapest aluminum oxide rings hold up very well to braided lines.

 

[Norboo]

Re: Boat tackle?

There are a plethora of outfits you can use: What kind of boat fishing are you going to do? Will you be casting, trolling, baitfishing, livelining etc? Use can use braid. I like Avet reels because they all come in left or right hand crank!

I am looking for a general purpose rod. As for trolling, I would get something little heavier

 

[Norboo]

Re: Boat tackle?

The rod in question is a standup rod. Way to “stout” for a casting rod and too light for a trolling blank.

Most guys fish #10-17, Fast action, med. Hvy blanks for Stripers. Trolling, you'll want #30 or #30-50 class rod.

You would be better served with Lamiglas inshore rod and a 6500 Sport mag on it.

Thank you. I will look into the rod and reel.

 

[dingbat]

Re: Boat tackle?

Thank you. I will look into the rod and reel.

Keep in mind that the average striper in the summer months is between 3-6 lbs. Even in the fall a 10 lbs. fish is a good one. Winter and Spring is a little different story

 

[Norboo]

Re: Boat tackle?

Where in Chesapeak Beach is good for fishing?

 

[dingbat]

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Where in Chesapeak Beach is good for fishing?

You can see the best places from the mouth of Fishing Creek. Sometimes its North. Sometimes it South. Sometimes it's directly East. Just depends on where the fish are on a given day.

 

[Norboo]

Re: Boat tackle?

You can see the best places from the mouth of Fishing Creek. Sometimes its North. Sometimes it South. Sometimes it's directly East. Just depends on where the fish are on a given day.

thank you. now I have to figure out where the mouth of Fishing Creek is.

 

[R Socey]

Re: Boat tackle?

I have no idea where that idea came from, but it's absolutely not true today. As a Rod Smith and owner of a custom rod shop, I can tell you that even the cheapest aluminum oxide rings hold up very well to braided lines.

A long time ago, someone showed me a rod where braid had cut into the guides! I see reels today that stipulate that they are braid worthy. I asumed that the cheapos were still attrition susceptible; I havn't looked at anything other than g-loomis for many years.
It surprises me that you don't use specific outfits for different situations being a custom rod builder and all.

 

[dingbat]

Re: Boat tackle?

A long time ago, someone showed me a rod where braid had cut into the guides!

A long time ago they had B&W TV's also.

Here is what my colleagues say about braid and guides
http://rodbuilding.org/read.php?2,286485

I see reels today that stipulate that they are braid worthy.

The only “braid reels” that I'm familiar with lay the line at angles to keep the overlaying line from digging in to the layers below.

I havn't looked at anything other than g-loomis for many years.

G. Loomis rods have been by name only since Gary left in 2005. Here is what the man himself has to say about it

http://www.tackletradeworld.com/ind...rs-gary-loomis&catid=67:china-fish&Itemid=134

It surprises me that you don't use specific outfits for different situations being a custom rod builder and all.

Braid compatible rods is a marketing ploy. A blank does not know or care what runs thru the guides and the rod bends the exact same if I load test it using monofilament or braid. If the guides don't
care and the rods bends the same, what are you buying?

 

[capt sam]

Re: Boat tackle?

Those were interesting reads, thanks for posting those dingbat. I use mono and braid concurrently depending on where and how I'm fishing, all my rods are either Loomis or St Croix blanks with both titanium recoil guides and Fugi SC's, never had an issue with braid on any of them, these are not super high end expensive set ups either but they perform well down here and in the Keys on all types of fishing.

 

[R Socey]

Re: Boat tackle?

A long time ago they had B&W TV's also.

Here is what my colleagues say about braid and guides
http://rodbuilding.org/read.php?2,286485
My how time flies: I knew G-loomis changed hands, (Shimano I think )but I think the quality has not - I havn't heard contrary anyway. Maybe you can educate me there too.


The only “braid reels” that I'm familiar with lay the line at angles to keep the overlaying line from digging in to the layers below.


G. Loomis rods have been by name only since Gary left in 2005. Here is what the man himself has to say about it

http://www.tackletradeworld.com/ind...rs-gary-loomis&catid=67:china-fish&Itemid=134



Braid compatible rods is a marketing ploy. A blank does not know or care what runs thru the guides and the rod bends the exact same if I load test it using monofilament or braid. If the guides don't
care and the rods bends the same, what are you buying?

I knew Loomis changed hands ( Shimano I think ) I think the quality remains; I havn't heard to the contrary. Maybe you can educate me there too :redface: - My how time flies!

 

[dingbat]

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I knew Loomis changed hands ( Shimano I think ) I think the quality remains; I havn't heard to the contrary. Maybe you can educate me there too :redface: - My how time flies!

Quality speaks for itself. The fact that they have sued Gary over the rights to his own name three times should tell you they are relaying on a name, not the quality to sell rods.

The fact of the matter is that 90% of the anglers don?t have a clue what differentiates a good rod from a great rod. Most buy on name recognition. Put this weeks Bass Angler of the Day's name on the rod and advertise on the front cover of every fishing magazine on the news stand and you?ll make millions. The Carrot Rod is a perfect example of this. From a technical and performance standpoint they?re a mediocre rod at best. Prone to breakage, they sold millions before the truth came out. Vegetable rods gone wild

The other thing you have to realize that an off the shelf rod is a compromise. Like clothing, one size doesn?t fit all. Why spend big bucks on a brand name suit that doesn?t fit quite right when you can buy a suit that fits equally as well or better for 30% less? Is a 15 cent decal worth an additional 30% in price?

One of the best money to performance rods out there are the Bass Pro rods. Good rods at a very reasonable price.

 

[Norboo]

Re: Boat tackle?

The rod in question is a standup rod. Way to “stout” for a casting rod and too light for a trolling blank.

Most guys fish #10-17, Fast action, med. Hvy blanks for Stripers. Trolling, you'll want #30 or #30-50 class rod.

You would be better served with Lamiglas inshore rod and a 6500 Sport mag on it.

I’ve heard great things about lamiglas blanks from Frank Daignault when I used to surf fish a lot. I ordered what you recommended but I got the Avet MXL reel. I hope it’s not an overkill. Thanks for all your insights.

As I recall, you were going to PM me where all your secret striper spots were…

 

[dingbat]

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I ordered what you recommended but I got the Avet MXL reel. I hope it’s not an overkill. Thanks for all your insights.

Good luck. As a tournament surf fisherman and caster, that wouldn't have been my choice of reel.

 

[Norboo]

Re: Boat tackle?

Good luck. As a tournament surf fisherman and caster, that wouldn't have been my choice of reel.

I have few Abu Garcia Reels for surf casting. Do you have a shop in Cheasapeake Beach?