Boating Accidents (post here)

[jjacobs007]

Hi fellow iboaters!

In the last few years i have noticed many more boating accidents that were just that or bad calls.

I hoped that it would never come to this but it surely has.

I ask of you to keep an eye on your local waters and post the things that went terribly wrong for the boaters that day and post them here with links so we all can read them and learn these things, so it might not happen again on the waters with us.Remember to post the lake and state for easy searching.

These stories true to life are going to be hard to bear and will leave a deep gut feeling in you so be ready for the truth and i dont want to hurt the families that these things happen too,but it will be helpful if we can see and read these stories first hand.

Please be careful what you say and what pics you post,as you dont know who will read them.

Togeather we can make a differance and save lifes!!!!

Yours truly (Captain J Jacobs)

 

[JoLin]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

I personally don't get the point of this. There are only a few causes of 90+% of boating accidents, and one overwhelming cause of fatalities- the victim wasn't wearing a PFD when the body was recovered.

The accidents are caused by:

1. Poor judgement, usually a result of, or exacerbated by alcohol.
2. Lack of education.
3. Stupidity.

You can't fix stupid, so scratch that one. If people didn't drink too much, and understood/adhered to the existing rules and regs, the number of serious accidents would take a nosedive overnight.

My .02

 

[Home Cookin']

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

accident stories are usually posted in Stupid Human Tricks even though many are not caused by stupidity but just fate. even experienced boaters do not always appreciate certain dangers, and can learn from them, just as new boaters can

 

[dingbat]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

We lost two fisherman last weekend. Water was rough, (gusts to 19 kts.) but not horribly bad for a 25' boat. Both victims wearing body location devices (PFD).

They had no VHF or VHF was not working. Called Local fire department via cell phone that they where taking on water. Several boats within range had they radioed for help. Fire department called local charter caption in area to help. The charter pulled five people from the water, one in cardiac arrest. The Coast Guard picked a second victim in cardiac arrest from the water shortly thereafter.

The boat was not recovered. They have no idea why the boat was taking on water. I?m guessing a thru hull fitting let loose.

 

[crabby captain john]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

Family parked their 'toon on the beach 2 weeks ago. Tide-- it broke loose and was retrieved. Broke loose again and young man swam to get it,,, not seen by the captn of a 42' boat and was run over. Twin screws chopped him to pieces.

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

Not a good idea.

If you are directly involved I would advise against it. We do not need posts of accidents. That will lead to people posting worse looking accidents.

We do not post auto accidents and they happen with normally worse outcomes.

This IS NOT a forum for gore and I advise against it.

 

[agallant80]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

Most of the accadents I see down here around Raleigh, NC are people fising and drowning. I think they go out in really small boats and don't know how to swim. I was a fife guard so I don't have a huge issue with taking people out who don't know how to swim but I don't really care for it. I once heard an ER doctor say that the most distructitave thing he see is alchol..... I have to agree with him. The amount of accadents caused by it are really high.

 

[Slip Away]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

Not a good idea for a topic here. Close it.

 

[WIMUSKY]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

We try not to close threads unless absolutely necessary. Best thing is to let the thread die....... Sorry Jacobs........

 

[jjacobs007]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts!! As for stupid human tricks, insults us all with this serious matter.

This thread was suppose to be as of current accidents on waters that we can all learn from but perhaps the time hasnt come yet,In the meantime many more will die and limbs and such will be lost due to something that we all could have learned from in just one read.

As you stand there cleaning your boat at the launch ramp at the end of the great day of boating and out of the corner of your eye you see someone doing something stupid i guess we must just look the other way and ignore it as long as we are safe.If i was told all these things before i started boating i would have wrote them down on my check list with all the other stuff too, but this was never mentioned or thought of.
I want to thank the mods for letting it get this far,im sure it will get closed after this post but i must try to help these people who go to the lake and have fun and loose something very important to them just by making one bad call.

By posting these bad calls i thought we would learn from them and be even better boaters.

I know this is a very touchy feely thread but i had to try.

Thanks you all for reading this and take a few minutes to think about what is really happening here before you reply.

J Jacobs as always.

 

[jigngrub]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

We try not to close threads unless absolutely necessary.

Maybe you could make an exception...

 

[Mr. PapaGeorgio]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

Aren't numbers 1 & 3 about the same? Or at least closely related.

 

[ziggy]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

guess i don't see why this thread should be closed. i'm up for learning from others mistakes. as for whether or not the mistake was a stupid mistake or not seems unimportant to me. imho, mistakes are many times stupid and we all make mistakes at some point.

i have two mistakes that i can remember off hand. one i did, one was someone else.

one of my mistakes was with a jetski. and yes it was a stupid mistake. i know ya wear your lanyard when ya do pwc. well. while loading i thought i didn't need to do that. my ski was parked at the dock, my trailer ended up at the adjacent dock. i was just gonna drive the ski from one dock to the other and then onto the trailer. well the lanyard was hanging off the had grip. when i grabbed the throttle the lanyard fell in between the gap created by pulling the throttle back. this kept the throttle at 1/2 or so. way to much for the dock and no way to throttle down, the lanyard kept the throttle open. i ended up hitting the dock with the back half of my ski. just missed the trailer, just missed land and went out to sea before i could get the lanyard loose and throttle down. the hole in my ski was a $500 mistake and no one was injured. but lesson learned. wear the darn lanyard every time ya start your ski.

the other mistake was someone else. a few years ago. two well versed boaters going fishing on a sunday morning. not many boats on the lake. light breezed created a lite ripple for waves. well these two fellas lost it @ high speed in there bass boat. both were ejected. neither wearing pfd + the skipper not wearing the lanyard. the boat circled at full throttle and took both fellas out in three pass. both doa. these were experienced fisherman. they knew what they were supposed to do, but didn't and they both payed the highest price.

neither of these incidents involved booze. me for sure and it was 8am on sunday for the fishermen and i never saw any reports of booze being a contributor to the bass boat accident.

so my education from both of these accidents is to always wear your lanyard. if ya got one. which on my '75 speed boat, i don't, but if i had one, i'd surly wear it.

 

[Ned L]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

I would consider it much more productive for discussions here to focus on " correct and proper" practices rather than to think we can best learn by talking about what 'not' to do. When it comes to properly operating a boat, navigation and rules of the road I am routinely disappointed by the lack of 'proper information' that is shared here. There are a small number routinely accurate contributors here, and a LOT of scary inaccurate information that is posted. -- Just my thoughts.

 

[mavryk]

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In the construction industry, as I am sure in many other industries, a very valueable tool to improve safety is "How it happened" reports." These reports give the information related to accidents/near misses that occur including what happened, how it happened, injuries and/or property damage that occured, and what should be done to avoid reocurrences. I understand concerns that some individuals may make grapic and inappropriate posts. Could these not simply be removed by the moderator? Learning from other's mistakes and sharing information is one of the best human performance tools with regards to safety.

 

[Ned L]

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I understand what you are saying about incident autopsies, they can be very effective. However, I believe they are used as follow ups to proper training, and not in place of proper training (which is what would be happening here).

 

[mavryk]

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Yes, they are used to improve training, however the information from these types of reports is disseminated to workers as soon as is reasonably possible to help raise awareness. Giving real-world examples of what has happend, in contrast with what could happen, humanizes the event and helps to make people stop and think twice about the actions they are taking. That being said, I completely understand that posts would need to be made in a way that is factual and not sensationalized.

 

[crabby captain john]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

How many times do we see things or do things that work out that could have gone very bad? Put them here and they can be read and everyone can think about them. Maybe it will keep someone from being hurt.

 

[UncleWillie]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

I have already learned that if the boat is drifting away, swimming after it may not be as good of an idea as it first appears.

Edit: If you have comments regarding the Moderation of the site you are welcome to discuss them via PM. Not in the open forum. Please reread the rules - QC

 

[roscoe]

Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

THere are no accidents.

Edit: thanks for the help - QC

2 common threads in many boating accidents/deaths, are not wearing PFD, and alcohol use.