Boats, Guns and The Law

Sea Hawk

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I know laws vary greatly from state to state. I was curious though, if anyone knew anything about carrying a firearm aboard a vessel, Both off-shore and innercoastaly. The firearm being legal, and the owner being legal to own it of coarse. Also is there any stipulation on what type of firearm you can carry for the protection of yourself and your family while aboard your craft?(etc. shotgun vs. handgun) Can the firearm be loaded, or does the ammo have to be stowed seperately and locked?
 

janichol

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Re: Boats, Guns and The Law

Not sure about other states, but I've got a conceal carry permit in Texas.... can carry my handgun just about anywhere (except where prohibited by the conceal carry law)... as long as it's concealed. As in nobody is to know I'm carrying it. How about if you are perpetually hunting????
 

mattttt25

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sea hawk- i think you'll get a lot of answers and quickly realize that it varies greatly as to where you are and where you're going. all i do know is most boaters headed to the carribean carry a firearm. funny, but pirates still do exist!
 

Sea Hawk

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Re: Boats, Guns and The Law

Thanks guys. I also am CCW licensed in my home state. (Delaware) But delaware is very small. I almost always end up in Maryland or New Jersey. I guess I'll have to research a bit and find out. I'll post anything I learn.
 

SCO

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Still a good question. In Texas, there is a travel provision even without a concealed carry permit. Ammo and gun must be stored seperately. I wonder if boat travel, camping falls under this provision.
 

Sea Hawk

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Hard too say. Does state law preside? Or does maritime law preside?Every state is probably different, but what about off-shore?
 

BillP

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Every state has it's own laws and you need to check...I understand some are tough. <br /><br />Here in Florida you can carry without a concealed license if the weapon is stored and out of immediate reach...car or boat. Leave it on the seat in immediate reach and it is a felony. Never on person without the concealed permit either.<br /><br />I carry offshore and coastwise in Florida and been checked four times...but also have a concealed permit. The Bahamas checked me twice when clearing for cruises and didn't care one bit about the gun I declared.
 

FlyBoyMark

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But..in Florida if your hunting or fishing you can open carry in a holster unless otherwise restricted in a particular conservation area. OR.. Gun can be loaded and in an unlocked glove box or in a zippered bag zipped up. If you have a CC, you can pretty much do what ever you want in your boat. In additon, without a CC, if your boat is equiped with a full cabin, it is considered your abode and in Florida castle doctrine then applies. Concealed carry on your person on a non cabin type boat that is not your abode is a third degree felony..weird, aint it?
 

Skinnywater

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Why not while your on board, have your "Mohoska" hanging off your belt in full view, like it was a Buck knife?<br />Loaded, chambered, half cocked, safety on and holstered.<br />It would be legal here.
 

Sea Hawk

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Well the hole holster thing won't work well for me. I usually boat naked and when I do wear something, it's my fish net thong that I designed myself. No, Just kidding............ I didn't design it. Anyway, In cooler months and when just cruising that would work, But when it's hot and you're fishing or swimmig or whatever in shorts and no shirt, a holstered .45 just seems a bit cumbersome. Besides, I don't really care to advertise my buisness to anyone who may pass by. <br />The only time someone should know that I have my sidekick is if they have done something to put me in a position to HAVE to use it. Hopefully that day will never come.
 

roscoe

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Letting people know you have it, may keep you out of a situation in which you have to use it.
 

Sea Hawk

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Well roscoe I think like this. You are right. The sight of it probably would deter most would-be pirates. But, There is a liquer store near me and the owner/operator always used to wear a relvover on his hip in plain view. I often thought this was dumb. You see the other two guys that worked there didn't wear guns. Or at least not openly. I always thought that if I'm a robber, and come into that store, the first thing I need to do is eliminate any potential problems. I figure that if he is wearing a gun, I'm just gonna shoot him right off the bat and then deal with the other guys. I don't particularly want to make myself into a target for a crook. I would rather He feel at ease and underestamate me rather than feel like he needs to shoot me to protect his own rear end. If he knows that your armed, that makes him a lot more likely to do something stupid. I prefer the element of suprise. Also, if he doesn't know I'm armed, there is still a chance that I can get out of the situation without a fire fight. And that is the main objective. At last resort, then defend yourself and family with no mercy until the threat has been halted.
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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Sea Hawk,<br /><br />This topic can be a pain in the butt. Last year there was a very heated discussion on the subject.<br /><br />I suggest you go to search and look up guns. There will be alot of reading to do.<br /><br />Please do not bring it back to the top. It was one of those posts that should be left alone.<br /><br />Beware this will get alot of attention. <br /><br />...SS
 

Sea Hawk

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SS, I thought that was the porpose of this forum. DISCUSSION. I surely didn't want to dwell on something that you have no interest in. But apparently some folks do have and intrest. With all due respect, if you don't care to read or be apart of a particular topic, just don't click on it. I don't see the harm in discussing a very valid topic with some fellow boaters who might have the same questions as I do. If I am wrong then by all means please explain to me why this topic should not be discussed here and I will leave it alone. But since I was not a member of this forum a few years ago I didn't get to be involved in the previous discussion on this topic. I 'm not trying to be smart, but it's not like I keep bringing it up and no one is answering. After all, it is a boat related question and it would appear that several other people would like the answers as well as I would.
 

janichol

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Hmm, maybe Big Brother is trying to tell you something..... something about the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy. If it's concealed, you don't know it's there.....<br />Watch out for black helicopters following you.<br />Maybe we should combine this with the discussion of killing cats who pee in your boat! :D
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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Sea Hawk, I didn't mean to step on your toes. If you want to see opinions that have been posted already, I suggest reading the topic "Guns and Boats". There is 3 pages of responses. Hopefully after reading them, you may understand why I mentioned it.<br /><br />In fact the newer members may need to know what the opinions are, and maybe you are right for bringing it up.<br /><br />My opinion is that a boat owner that has a gun is the only one should know if it is aboard or not, and take the proper saftey precautions in doing so. Some will agree and some will disagree.<br /><br />Sorry again and let the discussion continue......SS
 

Sea Hawk

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SS, <br /> Thank you for your respectfull and curtious reply. I will look up the old dialog from previous years. End of discussion. I respect and appreciate your responce. Thank you. No further discussion on this topic is needed. Once again thank you and happy baoting.
 
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