Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

[boater1234]

I just ordered a brand new 20hp suzuki efi.I wanted to know if i break in the outboard with ROYAL PURPLE breakin oil thats specifically for breaking 4stroke engines will that be ok?I know it's not fcw oil but will it be ok just to break it in for the time it needs.It's not a synthetic oil it's a reg based oil with alot of phosphorus and zinc in it.It's actually under the marine category on rp website so i couldn't see it not being safe but it's better to ask if anyone know about this product.

After breakin i am going to use rp 10w 30 marine 4stroke oil or 10w 40,which would be better in the florida weather?

 

[ondarvr]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

If it meets all of specifications recommended by Suzuki for use in this motor then I don't see a problem, If not you may have just voided your warranty. It may be fine for the motor even if it doesn?t meet Suzuki?s specifications, but then you?re on your for any problems you experience that may have been covered under the warranty.

 

[bassman284]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Very likely the manual will have specific oil recommendations.

 

[JimS123]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Very likely the manual will have specific oil recommendations.

Seems like following the manual is the way to go, no matter what device you are breaking in. Even if wallyworld gunk saves you a few bucks, or if Bubba highly recommends brand X, what have you really saved in the long run?

(never even heard of RP)

 

[ondarvr]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

?

(never even heard of RP)

RP (Royal Purple) is a well known company that markets high end oils to specialty markets, I'm sure they work well, I just haven't used any of them.

 

[JimS123]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

RP (Royal Purple) is a well known company that markets high end oils to specialty markets, I'm sure they work well, I just haven't used any of them.

Duh! We use Royal Purple in all of the industrial equipment that runs 24/7/365. Just never heard it called RP!

 

[jimmbo]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Doesn't the engine come with oil? Either installed or supplied in the crate? If so I'm sure if is up to the task for the break in.

 

[boater1234]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

No break in oil in the box,i called suzuki today and they said as long as it's not full synthetic and marine oil or sae certified on the breakin then it's ok.The oil i'm using from RP is made for marine outboards.I will just go with that and then after breakin i will use either RP 10w30 marine oil or amsoil,i will use full synthetic after breakin or i will use the synthetic yamaha oil they came out with.I know that synthetic oil can hurt outboards because it doesn't let the motor run at full temp because the oil keeps the engine cooler then reg oil.The thing i found out is as long as i run alot of wot which i will the synthetic oil will be ok because it will reach full running temp.Thats what i was told by the suzuki dealer i went to today.I bought the motor from newoutboards.com for $2935,thats a steal compared to what i was getting from all the suzuki dealers around my area.The cheapest i found it near me was close to $3500 with the electric start,i wanted to buy local but thats just to much when i got it almost $500 cheaper.

 

[ondarvr]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Suzuki will have a spec in the manual for the oil and the oil bottle needs to have that stamped on it or it's not going to meet the requirements for the warranty. RP saying it's designed for marine use doesn't cut it, if it doesn't have the stamp it's not going meet the minimum standards when it comes to the warranty. I'm not saying that the RP oil isn't great stuff, or that it doesn't meet that spec, or that it's not stamped on the bottle, only that it needs to be so that your warranty isn't voided.

 

[jimmbo]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Since RP is a synthetic you shouldn't be using it for Breakin. I know My Volvo Penta I/O came with Synthetic from the factory. The rings never did seat and the plugs were always wet with oil. At 100 hrs engine was replaced under warranty and I did the breakin with Dino oil after which I switched to synthetic and for the last 9 years the plugs are nice and dry like they should be. The last 7 or 8 yrs have been with RP 15 - 40

 

[boater1234]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Their breakin oil is not synthetic,it's a reg mineral oil with a high concentration of zinc and phosphorus.I just got the motor in the mail today and it states you can use any fwc oil or any sae certified oil,they want 10w40 ran in it.I called suzuki to explain what i was doing and as stated they said no synthetic on breakin which this oil isn't,after the 10hr breakin you can use what oil you want as long as it's certified.

 

[ondarvr]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

You haven't answered whether the oil you plan to use is certified.

 

[boater1234]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

SAE certified is all i need from suzuki.You can use marine oil or automotive oil as long as it's fcw or sae certified,The breakin oil is sae certified.I have read the whole manual that verifies that and suzuki itself verified that.They like i said perfer you use their oil but what manufacture doesn't want you to use their own oil for more profit in their pocket.

 

[jasonbailey]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Their breakin oil is not synthetic,it's a reg mineral oil with a high concentration of zinc and phosphorus.I just got the motor in the mail today and it states you can use any fwc oil or any sae certified oil,they want 10w40 ran in it.I called suzuki to explain what i was doing and as stated they said no synthetic on breakin which this oil isn't,after the 10hr breakin you can use what oil you want as long as it's certified.

I would run what exactly what is printed in the manual while it is under warranty. If the motor fails under warranty, I'm sure Suzuki would want an oil sample to see if you were running the required oil. If you weren't they have grounds to not honor the warranty repair. So, if you want to chance having warranty claims denied, run the RP. I would run oil that came out of bottles that said Suzuki, just to avoid any warranty problems. It's your money....

 

[boater1234]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Not trying to be wrong or right here but i have never in my life heard of a motor company voiding a warranty due to oil.There is a ton of people if not most who use auto oil in their 4stroke engine,mobil 1,amsoil,rp,etc...Not using an oil that is not fcw certified will not void your warranty.Most if not all manufactures of motors have it right in the manual that states if there is no fcw marine oil available at the time use a good quality SAE certified oil,which is auto oil.Whether you use fcw marine oil or sae certified oil your motor will be protected.People use other oil besides marine oil in their outboards and they run thousands of hrs with no issues.Oil is usually never the issue or problem with an outboard unless someone just doesn't know what their doing.

 

[boater1234]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Again the manual says word for word,SAE OR FC-W OIL is the recommended oil.As long as i have sae or fcw stamp im fine.Just being curious,i have had a few warranty issues with motors and they never took an oil sample,i never heard of that unless thats new.

 

[boater1234]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

Once the engine is completely broke in then i will use RP fcw marine oil(10w40)

 

[jasonbailey]

Re: Breaking in a engine with RP breakin oil

In this day and age, if a manufacturer can deny a warranty claim because of the end user not following what is exactly printed in their manuals, believe me they will try and do so. If your new engine throws a rod through the block, the manufacturer will want to know if it was a bearing failure or a lubrication failure.

My thought is this, if you use what the manual says, and you use the manufacturer branded oil, any warranty claims will be easier to deal with. Once the engine is out of the warranty period, run what ever oil you think is best.

That being said, when my Merc was under warranty I used Mercury two-stroke oil just to avoid any warranty complications. I never had a warranty issue, now I run whatever I can get the best deal on.

And, I really wonder if using exotic synthetics is overrated to begin with. I run Mobil One in my pick-up, & wife's car, but in my son's pickup, I run the dino. His truck has 180,000 Miles on it and runs like a clock. It has never seen synthetic.

Like I said, in the end its your money and what level of aggrivation you are willing to put up with if you have a warranty issue.