Brian's Loss

JoeW

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It's so disturbing to me to hear of a tragic loss such as that which BrianFD has experienced. Unfortunately, his loss is not the first I have known to happen this way. A good friend of my wife lost her 15 year old boy the same way. It's terrible. It worries me. I have a 15 year old boy and a 13 year old girl. They are my world, and it would come to an end should anything happen to them. <br />It seems to me that this is a relatively new phenomenon of our time, or did I just not hear about it when I was a kid? I put pressure on my kids to do well in school, perhaps even more than was placed on me. It seems that you have to these days. But, I'd rather they both drop out of school than to loose them this way. I'm just wondering how many of you have had personal experiences with young folks commiting suicide. Any thoughts or opinions as to why, what to look for etc?
 

Ross J

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Re: Brian's Loss

joew94th<br />Todays adolescent has to deal with and react to stress. It can relate to choosing a girl/boyfriend, self body image (a biggie these days), college, job seeking, job demands, social expectations, childrearing, marriage, and independent decision making. <br />Coping with change taxes a person both physically and psychologically and is observable in a number of ways.<br />You’ll have some local records that will show the sickness level of a community raises whenever there’s a known increase in stress for teenagers like school exams, social functions, and of course “the big game”.<br />Likewise the self destructive behaviour increases in relation to stress. Self destructive behaviour can be as simple as getting a haircut, or tattoo, or it can be more severe like using drugs, alcohol, or cutting all of ones hair off. Finally it can show as the obvious events like cutting oneself, self inflicted injuries, right up to death by suicide or a set up accident.<br />The rate of suicide is increasing every year despite all the moral taboos against it.<br />I think suicide is the third leading cause of death in the USA for teens, and if all accidents were examined then that figure would climb dramatically.<br />I have known a number of people who have concealed their suicide as an accident by driving into a tree, or off the road.<br />Women make the majority of unseccussful attempts, but men are successful more frequently. <br />Remember that suicide is a means of expressing aggression, and, or manipulating relationships or events in the environment, often it is unsuccessful on purpose. However look out for the person who dies “by accident” or by parasuicide. You know the story – man on ledge says he wants to jump. Rescue service gets to him and he says he’s scared and wants to come indoors. At the last moment he slips and falls to his death.<br /><br />Both in the fire brigade and as a nurse I have been involved in rescues and each successful rescue has resulted in the victim showing his/her appreciation, they al;ways seem to change their mind.<br />To this end, when your son/daughter is making any transition to their external environment or is having difficulty adjusting to their internal one, they need contact, communication and love. They must feel they can trust a member of the family. That’s two way also, they must know the family member can trust them!.<br /><br />Signs to look for,<br />Traditionally girls/women prepare for suicide. They usually plan it carefully, usually a non violent method. They often plan for events following the death, like giving away favourite items or doing “goodbye” work. Beware friends/ family who seem to be saying goodbye as if going away.<br />Boys/men are usually more violent in the method of suicide. They may show signs of withdrawl from family/friends. Usually they don’t do “Goodbye” work and they are more inclined to be impulsive. The common male is a college pupil, from average to above average education, is not happy with present achievements, and spends much time alone. Suicide occurs more often in graduate students than in undergrads.<br />Three golden rules for the prevention of suicide in teens – <br />1 – Educate – yourselves about early warning signs so that high risk people can be more easily identified.<br />2 – Compensate – for stressors – a significant relationship with a close relative is necessary here.<br />3 – Participate – have your teens participate in extracurricular activities that help prevent social isolation.<br /><br />Sorry for the lecture but this one is a biggie over here as well and I for one hurt every time I hear of another suicide amongst our young. The treasure lost each time alongside with the pain and suffering the family goes through is severe and no one wins!<br />Ross
 

LubeDude

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Re: Brian's Loss

We had a situation recently in one of our local communities where a whole carload of teens drove 100+ MPH into a rock wall killing all of them. Here again there were no signs by any of the kids that this might happen, the community was devistated by it.
 

mercrewser

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Re: Brian's Loss

Our society/media tells people they can have what ever they want and that they are supposed to be happy. When they arent this is what happens. Life is rough and you have to work and persevere at happiness. Teach this to your kids.
 

mercrewser

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Re: Brian's Loss

Dont mean to be calous but I too lost 2 friends this past year alone to suicide and in a way it angers me. Its a serious topic and every parent needs to be concerned about it.
 

bubbakat

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Re: Brian's Loss

Good post ross you just about covered it all. Guys in my trade I see several of these over the past few years and the family wants answers and we don't have them. Stop and pay attention to the kids i don't mean little johnnie throwing things at little sister. I mean really pay attention look for the signs they are there they are just masked.<br /> My prayers are for brian and any one else that has suffered through a needless death like this.
 

aspeck

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Ross said it well.<br /><br />As a member of the fire service, rescue squad, and EMS, we too have had to roll on more potential suicides than I care to recall. For a small community, it really is amazing the number, and if you were not in the response team, you would never know. My unit (completely volunteer) does not like to roll on them if they know that I am in the area - they will wait for me. Reason - they want me to be there to pray with them, and the victim, and the family. There is a strength to relying on faith during such a time.<br /><br />I feel it is extremely important for kids (and adults) to learn they are not alone, there is always one who is with them. All they have to do is turn to Him. Personally have seen it make a world of difference. Doing good and doing the right thing can add pressure to an already fragile person. But a loving relationship, a personal relationship, with Jesus Christ can make all the difference in the world.<br /><br />I can point to many in my church family that came there at the point of ending it all, or at least acting it out for attention, but in the process found something that changed their lives.
 

one more cast

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Re: Brian's Loss

I lost a 19 year old step brother in-law this way. He was in and out of minor trouble with the law. It seemed like he was getting his life back together, had a job,girlfrined, and one day after talking to his PO he told his live in girlfriend he was going to go take a nap, but instead went upstairs and shot himself in the head. No one saw it comming.
 
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