can my computer be fixed??

smokeonthewater

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Sooo My faithful laptop crashed during an update from ms and it came back with a screen telling me to use the windows disk and select repair.... Well there was no "repair" and I GOOFED! I saw "restore system image" and didn't realize what I was doing till it was too late. the whole process took only a couple minutes and BAM new virgin computer.... thousands and thousands of pictures, songs, bookmarks, pdf's, and etc gone.

Now I understand that the data is still on the disk but that the registry is gone in a moment of stupidity.

Can the registry be rebuilt? Do I have to look at, name and file each individual file? (that would take just about forever) Can the registry be populated from the data on disc automatically?...... What do I need to do?

please, no guesses here... I already have plenty of those.

BTW in the interest of not overwriting data I shut it down right away and have not started it since... I have acquired a usb cable interface to set up the drive as an external drive on another computer.
 

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Re: can my computer be fixed??

As an I.T. professional, here are my recommendations . . .

The path that you were heading down with the Windows installation disk is one that wipes out the HDD and places a brand new image of the base system on the disk, like when it was new. (not what you want). It is hard to say exactly how far you went down that path . . .

Set up the the laptop HDD as an external drive on another computer, as you indicated that you are prepared to do. Then boot up that computer and see what data, if any is readable on the laptop's drive. If it comes up with data, then you can copy things off to your other computer(s). The presence or lack of a registry is meaningless in terms of getting the data off, and that is what you are trying to do at this point.

If it does not come up with any readable data and says something like disk unreadable, then you are f'd. DO NOT format it or anything like that. Report back how it goes as there are additional steps that could possibly be done if it is unreadable, but chances will be getting slim at that point.

Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go run my weekly data back-up of my laptop . . . :facepalm:
 

hrdwrkingacguy

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If it boots to windows and you can't see your old folders and data when you browse the C: drive then I think you are boned...Unless you know someone like Abby from NCIS...It probably did a quick format of some kind and reinstalled itself...If you stopped it in the middle(which I didn't see in the original post) its very doubtful but possible. :eek:

You could try this, but I have never used it...
 

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@#$%Computers!...at home and at work, it's always some @#%$% thing!...Hope you can retrieve all your stuff!...Maybe a Geek Guy can work his magic on it...might be worth a few bucks$$$ to get your stuff back! Good Luck!;)
 

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You're hosed. Nothing short of one of those extremely expensive data recovery services is going to get those files back. This is why I don't store all my important stuff on the same drive as the operating system (and I back it up). Sorry dude. Also, I think you are confusing the windows "registry" with the hard drive's boot record or something like that.
 

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When you have the drive connected to your second PC try running a file unerase or undelete program to see what files can be recovered from the old drive.
 

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Re: can my computer be fixed??

Even running a Format will only remove the headers. like loosing the card file for a library, all the books are there, the system just doesn't know know where anything is and cannot recognize anything.

Running a File Recovery app can restore many of those lost files, however, any that have been overwritten are gone so do NOT install anything else.

If you can plug that hard drive into another machine as a 2nd drive, install the recovery program on that machine's C; drive and run it.

I've been there, lost ten years of the G'kids pictures. It sukx

Good Luck!
 

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Hey Smoke - In the "recovery" plan, if you don't have one already snag an external hard drive. It's cheap real estate, and you can build a nice backup system with one.

Sorry you've gotta' fight with it like this.
 

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+5 on the external HD enclosure idea...
Newegg would probably be the best place to get one of them cheap.
I have recovered files from HD's that have been pretty screwed up this way.

I used this program to do it ; http://download.cnet.com/PC-Inspector-File-Recovery/3000-2248_4-10118663.html
Best of all it's free :)

You may be even able to do it while the hard drive is still in your machine running the OS.
 

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Ok don't run any programs on it.....this is the only hope you have so leave it shut off for now...Take another computer and download the lastest copy of Knoppix Live Cd.....change bois to run Cd first on machine and use the instructions below with your choice....they are old but work the same with any verison of Knoppix......So with the Live cd it will run a Linux operating system to mount the hard drive you copy your files as you wish thumbdrive,another cd drive and so on Good Luck hope is all you have...link below instructions
http://www.shockfamily.net/cedric/knoppix/
 

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Guys, in reading his first post it seems clear that the drive got reformatted during the system restore. Just mounting it as an external drive on another machine, windows or linux, isn't going to do him any good.

Good call on shutting the computer off and not doing anything with that drive.

Pick up an external enclosure, install that drive in it, then plug it into a different PC.

Go download this. There are several free file recovery tools out there, but I've had pretty good luck with this one.

Have it scan the wiped drive and see how it does. It's highly unlikely that you'll get everything back, but you should be able to get a very large portion of it.

Once that finishes, there are more advanced tools and techniques that "might" be able to get some of the rest of it, but at that stage you're probably looking at forking over some significant cash, though.
 

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Guys, in reading his first post it seems clear that the drive got reformatted during the system restore. Just mounting it as an external drive on another machine, windows or linux, isn't going to do him any good.

Good call on shutting the computer off and not doing anything with that drive.

Pick up an external enclosure, install that drive in it, then plug it into a different PC.

Go download this. There are several free file recovery tools out there, but I've had pretty good luck with this one.

Have it scan the wiped drive and see how it does. It's highly unlikely that you'll get everything back, but you should be able to get a very large portion of it.

Once that finishes, there are more advanced tools and techniques that "might" be able to get some of the rest of it, but at that stage you're probably looking at forking over some significant cash, though.

Yes, It may have done the 'drop partion', 'add new partion' thing, but again, it is hard to say exactly. Once we hear back from the OP, then we will know more. . .
 

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yes it did do a format of some sort.... it only took a minute or so on my SLOW computer so It had to be a quick format with minimal data damage. I have the equivalent of an external drive housing.... just a cable and power supply.

If I can get the majority I'll be thrilled...... How does this work? do the files and folders come back with their original names and extensions or do I have to directly address each and every file?
 

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The way this works is that you hook up the drive as an external drive and see if the drive is readable and if so if you have any files showing.

The odds are that you do not have any files that are going to show up . . .

. . . at that point, you are in to the 'bag of tricks' stage were you would have to get some of the software programs that have been mentioned and see if those programs can decipher any of the files. This won't be pretty, though.
 

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Re: can my computer be fixed??

yes it did do a format of some sort.... it only took a minute or so on my SLOW computer so It had to be a quick format with minimal data damage. I have the equivalent of an external drive housing.... just a cable and power supply.

If I can get the majority I'll be thrilled...... How does this work? do the files and folders come back with their original names and extensions or do I have to directly address each and every file?

OK. Excellent questions....

I've been working in IT for just a shade over 20 years now, and I've recovered files from LOTS of drives. Just mention that so you know I'm not blowing smoke.

Getting your drive to just "come back the way it was" before the update hosed it "might be" possible, but it's really not a feasible option in your situation. That would be where you ship it off to a data recovery service and spend a couple grand for them to give it their "best effort". Nobody will give you a guarantee. If this computer had business records that were going to cost you a couple million if you couldn't get them back, I'd recommend giving that a shot, but for normal personal data, nah...

Basically after the program scans your drive it will present you with a list of files that it found. The list will be in a tree structure, pretty much as if you were using Windows Explorer. Then you just need to copy those files to another drive that is NOT the one you're recovering from. This can be the main hard drive in the computer your using to do the recovery, if it has room. If not, you'll need yet another external drive to plop them onto (this will be a handy drive to use for backups once your done with this recovery).

After you've got all the files you want to recover, just put the original drive back in your laptop and set things up again as if it was a new computer. It'll be a minor pain in the butt reinstalling all your software, but having a nice, fresh copy of Windows installed will be worth it. You should notice your computer running a bit smoother and faster once you finally come out the other end of this ordeal.

And then, of course, as an IT professional, it is my solemn duty to recommend that you look into backup solutions in the future. (But I'm sure you're probably already thinking along those lines... :))

[Technical explanation: The files on your hard drive are not erased when the drive is formatted. What is erased is the "directory" that tells your computer where those files are located on the drive. The data is still there in perfect condition UNTIL some other program writes data onto that same location. The program I recommended, and the one that Bubba recommended, basically scan every last bit of the hard drive and can recognize a file even when the directory information is gone.

Why can't you get "all" of your data back? Because the system restore process saw the empty directory and thought it had a fresh, clean drive available. It definitely wrote data over top of some of the data that used to be there. Anything that got written over you're not going to get back. Anything that did not get written over, you should be able to recover. The good news is that the system restore didn't write much data back, and in practice it's quite likely that it only overwrote stuff that you don't care about anyway.

The spots on the drive that did get written over can also (maybe) be recovered, but that's where you run into spending lots of money. It requires equipment above and beyond just a second PC. And the companies that have that equipment will charge you big bucks to give it a try and offer no guarantees as to how much they'll recover.]
 

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If it only took minutes to restore it wipe the file table that points to where each file is stored on the HDD. There are software recovery tools out that than can scan the drive and recover those files that are contiguous and stored whole. If the files are fragmented that is where the expensive recovery guys come in and do their forensic recovery. Get your hands on one of these which is what my desktop support guy uses. http://www.xpcgear.com/usbdsc5.html
Connect your laptop HDD and plug this into a USB port on another computer and use one of the recovery suggestions listed above or see if PC Tools File Recover http://www.pctools.com/file-recover/ can help you out.
 

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Re: can my computer be fixed??

for those that didn't catch it... the drive was always "readable" and simply plugging it in gave me all of the same files that were available on the other computer AFTER the format. I have tried undelete and as far as I can tell, while it did find some stuff, it does not seem to have found anything of any use.
I am working on setting up easeus next... It appears that the free version will only recover 1g of the 60 or so I lost but if it at least finds it I'll know there's hope.
 

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I'm not an I.T. guy but had a very similar circumstance a couple years back. I was able to recover most of the important things by setting the old drive up and accessing as an external drive. I used at least 5 or 6 free things i found on the net. I think I started at www.majorgeeks.com. Lots of free and beta testing of programs there. Good luck!
 

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Well if it can be believed easeus found 100 partitions... the first one says something like 90,000 files and 1.5 tb of data (on a 60 gb drive?)

None of the files seem to have names and When I try to preview anything I have 3 options, text which is always blank, hex which is a pace of zeros, and image which always pops up with " warning not support for image view"
soooooo I'm a bit lost here.
 

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Kevin:

You had mentioned that you were working with the 'free' version(s) of the recovery software(s). You may have to get the paid versions or Google a bit more. As I said, it is not going to be pretty, but at this point patience is your only hope.

I'll check with the staff at work as they are more in the trenches than I, and may have some other suggestions in addition to what has been offered so far.
 
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