can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Starter

[88sunrunner]

there are so many starters and i cannot identify the model of my motor ,need a starter , the bolts come through the bell housing in the outdrive not from the bottom ??

 

[88sunrunner]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

there are so many starters and i cannot identify the model of my motor ,need a starter , the bolts come through the bell housing in the outdrive not from the bottom ??

the motor is a 5.7 its in a 86 Bayliner 2550 ciera w/ volvo penta
looked on top sides back front all around and there is no tag to tell me what the motor model # is , not sure if engine is original but it is a GM 350 with v/p outdrive and parts
please help i need to get her started so i can get her out for the winter :facepalm:

 

[Don S]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Post some picrures.

 

[88sunrunner]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Post some picrures.

i don't have any good pics handy the boat is in the marina , its an 86 Bayliner 2550 ciera , the only # i found on the motor was on the octopus says 855670 think its the P/N for that engine has one sticker left on the valve covers Says GM General Motors thats it
the starter is under the left side facing the stern and the bolts come through the bell housing to hold it in
im not familiar with the volvo style motors

 

[Don S]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Go take some new pictures. What you are saying isn't even near normal.

 

[88sunrunner]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

lol..when i say bell housing i mean where the outdrive is connected to the motor , i was told that i needed to get the starter for the guy who is supposed to fix it ,he told me thats how it was connected ,from the stern torts the bow through the outdrive bell housing i have go to help in long island with the storm recovery , I'm in RI made it through the storm ok just ad some flooding in my engine compartment and cabin that shorted out starter and alternator my bilge pumps failed and i think its a leaky water pump , i had no problems with this boat all season just when i couldn't check on it for a week I had better go and pull the starter tomorrow morning maybe i can get a P/N off of it , i only have crappy pics of the engine of the water in the compartment , i drained all of the water and fixed the bilge , i pumped out the oil from the oil pan found about 3-4 quarts of water in pan and then pulled the oil out got 5 quarts out clean , the engine was never started and water never made it over the top of valve covers , hoping i put a new starter in and get the alt rebuilt and the motor still turns over:facepalm:

 

[etracer68]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Chevy starter motors bolt from the bottom up to the engine block, athough I have seen the 4 bangers bolt to the bell houseing. If the starter mount flange can be unbolted from the old one, just swich out the flanges.

 

[88sunrunner]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Chevy starter motors bolt from the bottom up to the engine block, athough I have seen the 4 bangers bolt to the bell houseing. If the starter mount flange can be unbolted from the old one, just swich out the flanges.

i was wrong , the man helping me mistook the bolts on outdrive housing to the block as the bolts in the starter
it is the GM starter with 1 long and 1 short bolt through the bottom

now the problem I'm having is getting the rear bolt out under the starter
Any tricks or special tools ??? i was trying with extensions and a double swivel and it seems like i can't get it
its in a bad spot ,its to tight to get your hnd between the starter and the hull engine rails the motor is mounted on
its a real ***** that bolt

 

[88sunrunner]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

i bought a starter a 5314m starter clockwise and no matter how i shim it i can't get it to engage the flywheel
it is making a hell of a lot of racket , so i thought maybe the housings were slightly different , so i had the starter rebuilder in my neighborhood and had him switch the old with the new
same problem starter will not engage the flywheel and it is making a screeching noise ...could the starter be going the wrong way ??
do i need a different starter??? what is the problem ?? i need to get this thing running so the hauler can pull it out for me
so i can fix everything else ....just stuck on stupid over here

 

[Don S]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Sounds more like issues with low voltage. http://www.arcomarine.com/xhtml/tech determine marine starter rotation.pdf

Could also be the insides of that cheap offshore starter is junk. Or maybe the flywheel ring gear has teeth missing.
Does the engine turn at all? Can you turn the engine by hand? If not, pull the plugs and see if there is water in the cylinders.

 

[88sunrunner]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Sounds more like issues with low voltage. http://www.arcomarine.com/xhtml/tech determine marine starter rotation.pdf

Could also be the insides of that cheap offshore starter is junk. Or maybe the flywheel ring gear has teeth missing.
Does the engine turn at all? Can you turn the engine by hand? If not, pull the plugs and see if there is water in the cylinders.

yes i turned the motor over by hand and it all turns , i will check the voltage , i ran a new cable from switch to starter with new ends , starter seems like it is getting enough voltage and is spinning just not engaging properly with the flywheel
screeches like a banshee , before the original went under water i never had any problems with starting ,flywheel looks fine no teeth missing as far as i can tell
sorry for new post wasn't sure if this post would be replied to anymore

 

[Bondo]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,... standard rotation for a SBC is lefthanded,.... as viewed from the Pto end...

Do ya still have the Original starter,..??

 

[88sunrunner]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,... standard rotation for a SBC is lefthanded,.... as viewed from the Pto end...

Do ya still have the Original starter,..??

PTO end?
i will see the original starter tomorrow , it is at the rebuilder , i spoke to him before , i am going to go down there tomorrow the original is beyond repair , both starters looked identical laying next to each other

 

[Don S]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

PTO end?

Looking at the flywheel.

Did you look at the link I posted above? It shows how to determine direction of the starter. If you bought a CW turning starter, then it's the right way.

 

[88sunrunner]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

Looking at the flywheel.

Did you look at the link I posted above? It shows how to determine direction of the starter. If you bought a CW turning starter, then it's the right way.

I'm sorry don i did not notice the link , i will check it out now Thanks

 

[Don S]

Re: can't find the model # on my 1986 5.7 volvo pent GM not in usual spots NEED Start

I'm sorry don i did not notice the link , i will check it out now Thanks

What did you think http://www.arcomarine.com/xhtml/tech determine marine starter rotation.pdf was? I can't even misspell that bad :facepalm: