Carbureted 7.4 Mag: Hard start, Accel. stumble, Carb. backfire.

Knot Waiting

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Been a while since I've posted. Can probably thank all of the knowledge I've gained from the good people here for helping to make me self-sufficient. However, I've got an issue now that begs the insight of the iboats community.

My 1991 SeaRay 260ov with 7.4 Mercruiser 454 Mag, Quadrajet (I think) carb, Corsa Captain's Call exhaust, and 800 freshwater hours; has always been hard to start cold. Pump, pump, pump, crank, crank, crank, stumble, and repeat.... Unless already have been started and run within a day or so of a restart. I attempted to correct this nagging issue by rebuilding the carburetor to no avail.

After the rebuild she slowly started to stumble upon acceleration; unless the throttle was reduced and eased back into (sometimes more than once during a single planing). Then occasionally die at low idle.

Then the carburetor got wet accidentally while cleaning the engine and she developed a through carb backfire that never seemed to clear up (despite through drying of the filter and components). With the last run (4th since wet) of the season being so poor I worried she may not make it back to dock.

Noteworthy issues that could relate are:
*An unexplained "water spray" residue on the starboard interior of the bilge; approximately 14" from the sole and adjacent the riser & bellow.
*Water in the bilge, likely from the aforementioned spray.
*Heavy steam from the starboard thru-hull exhaust during acceleration.
*The port riser becoming excessively hot which was determined to be from an impeller blade that broke free and blocked it's water passage.

Fuel is clean, water separator was replaced twice this season out of theory, and the cap/rotor are new.

Any thoughts on where to start chasing this? I don't want to fire the parts bazooka on my random guesses anymore and am trying not to jump to conclusions either. Hopefully all the info helps narrow ideas down. Thank you in advance for your advice.
 

Scott Danforth

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Start with crawling into the bilge with the motor running and find your water leak

Next go with replacing the impeller and a carb cleaning. Impeller replacement is routine maintenance

The backfire, hard to start, etc is your carb. A full tear down, clean, verify all passages clear, install new gaskets and soft parts, re-assemble is in order.

Getting the carb wet did NOT contribute to your problem
 

Rick Stephens

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#1 most often needed repeat job is a carb rebuild. So so so easy to not get every passageway clean. Also check your distributor. Cap and rotor can cause issues backfiring out carb with spark jump.

Rick
 

Silvertip

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Since you've worked on the carb already, there are some things you may have inadvertently "buggered". The secondaries are opened by a difference between air pressure above the plates and the vacuum below them. Under sudden full throttle application, misadjustment of the secondary spring can cause the secondaries to open too quickly thus causing the bog. Improper installation or damage to the accelerator pump, improper choke adjustment, float level adjustment, leaking welch plugs all contribute to starting and running problems. All of this stuff is covered in the service manual for your engine.
 

Bondo

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[h=2]Hard start, Accel. stumble, Carb. backfire.[/h]

Ayuh,..... Those are the usual symptoms of a Lean condition, a lack of gas,.....
 

alldodge

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Then the carburetor got wet accidentally while cleaning the engine and she developed a through carb backfire that never seemed to clear up (despite through drying of the filter and components). With the last run (4th since wet) of the season being so poor I worried she may not make it back to dock.

Heavy steam from the starboard thru-hull exhaust during acceleration.

I would do a compression test, that water may have damaged something
 

RaceCarRich

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Couldn’t hurt to check fuel pressure.

I’m assuming a mechanical pump. Also have to assume the fuel filter was changed as part of rebuild.

Also find your water leak. Use mirror, cell phone, whatever it takes.
 
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