Carburetor Leak Diagnostic Help

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1989 Mercury Classic Fifty 45hp
I?ve done a lot of work on the fuel system on this motor and basically everything starting at the carbs through the tank is new with the exception of the fuel pump housing, motor side fuel connector and fuel line T at the carbs. I was having problems getting air into the system and then the system appeared to be blocked (couldn?t pump any fuel into the system of go above idle) so I opened the fuel pump to be sure it wasn?t obstructed. After doing research online I found that the fuel pump kit I used didn?t appear to be the correct one although it appeared to match what was used by a previous owner. I rebuilt it with the correct kit and put it back on but now when I pump the ball the fuel pours out the bottom carb and the bulb doesn?t get hard. This was not happening before. I opened the carbs up and they looked fine but since I hadn?t replaced the floats when I rebuilt them I went ahead and got new ones. I also got the Mercury needles/springs and did them also. I then set the float (1/4 inch) and put them back. Again when I pump the bulb the fuel runs out the bottom carb. I took them off again and set the height to 5/16 and put them back on but didn?t pump the bulb because it was late and I didn?t want to clean up fuel again.

One thing I did notice is that when I removed the carbs I lifted up the idle level so the top carb bracket would clear easier and I hadn?t put that back down so when I?ve been testing the float levels the idle has been slightly higher than ?idle?. Would that allow fuel to be pumped through the carb? It wasn?t up the first time I pumped the bulb after putting in the new fuel kit.

The only things different from when I was able to get a firm bulb are: The idle level was up a little, the fuel pump has a different kit, new floats and needles (needles were new before but Sieara not Merc.) and I?m being sure I?m pumping the bulb with the arrow pointing up. Oh yes, new (better quality) hose clamps on most of the lines.

Any thoughts on why the carb is leaking? Thought I would put this out there and maybe someone would respond before I get home and spill more fuel.
 

Barnacle_Bill

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Re: Carburetor Leak Diagnostic Help

The primer bulb will not get hard as long as that carb is leaking. The carb is leaking because the float is not sealing the needle with its seat. Are you sure you got the right needle and seats?
 

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Re: Carburetor Leak Diagnostic Help

Pretty comfortable I have the right needles, part number matches mercurypartsexpress part number shown on the diagram for the carb. The odd thing to me is that it started happening after I rebuilt the fuel pump, I could get a firm bulb before that. My hope is the change in the rebuild kit for the fuel pump revealed downstream (pardon the pun) issues. If I'm lucky it may have also resolved the fuel deliver issue I was having. I expect to be done about the time I need to winterize it. :)
 

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Re: Carburetor Leak Diagnostic Help

Looks like Carb leakage issue was resolved by setting at 5/16 instead of 1/4. How hopefully the fuel pump kit will resolve my fuel delivery issue.
 

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Re: Carburetor Leak Diagnostic Help

Ok, I'm getting the feeling this motor has gremlins. Today the bulb won't get hard and it pumps fuel through the carbs. Could this be a case of a bad bulb. It has worked in the past and is basically new. Is is possible that the bulb is bad and allowing me to just push too push the fuel through the needles. I went out and disconnected it from the motor and started pumping. As I pump I can feel the fuel moving back and forth through the down stream line and it doesn't get hard that would lead me to believe a valve is bad. The more I write this the more I think it is the problem. Wish I could go out and test it but I don't feel up for cleaning up fuel in the garage again tonight. I was messing with the lines the last time out and I bet I screwed up one of the valves. I think my whole problem was the kinked fuel line under the fuel pump.

You would think that someone would invent a more reliable bulb.
 
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