Carrying extra fuel

footbrake

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I was wondering if I were to take a little slow trip up the Erie Canal from Tonawanda (Buffalo ) headed to say Albion or so can you carry a couple 5 gal. containers of gas on board in case there are no fuel staions along the route. What is the law on this?
 

the vision

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Re: Carrying extra fuel

One call to your local wildlife and fisheries would be your safest answer.
 

UncleWillie

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Re: Carrying extra fuel

Carrying extra fuel is OK.

Getting it into the boat will be the issue.
No Marinas or Public launch ramps will permit Manual Fuel Transfers anywhere on the water. :grumpy:

Pouring 5 gallon cans down the filler spout from inside of the boat, without spilling a drop on the water is not a trivial feat.
Try doing it at home on the trailer with someone rocking the boat. See how that works out. :rolleyes:

Carrying extra 6 gallon OB motor Tanks with a means to feed them directly into the fuel system without pouring them out is a preferred solution. :D

If you are not worried about spilling a little, and not worried about getting caught, There will be no problem. :eek:


Under federal law (the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 and the Clean Water Act) it is illegal to discharge any petroleum product into the water.
By law, any oil or fuel spill that leaves a sheen on the water must be reported to the U.S. Coast Guard at 1-800-424-8802.

You are responsible for any environmental damage caused by your fuel spill. So?preventing spills will be beneficial for you and the boating environment!

It is also against the law to use detergent or other chemicals on a spill to disperse the oil or sheen.
These products can cause the petroleum to sink into the water, causing more harm to marine animals and bottom sediments.

If you have spilled a petroleum product, immediately stop the source of the leak, use oil absorbent pads or booms, and notify your marina. Call the U.S. Coast Guard. Your marina may also know a state agency that needs to be contacted.
If the spill is of any substantial size, we also recommend you call your insurance company.
 

82rude

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Re: Carrying extra fuel

theres also the gas and go fuel tanks that take the worry out of fuel transfer.
 

airshot

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Re: Carrying extra fuel

Carrying extra fuel is OK.

No Marinas or Public launch ramps will permit Manual Fuel Transfers anywhere on the water.


Did not know that was a law, have seen it done at our public launch many times, in fact have seen it done at most public launches.
I guess the next thing would be the fuel tanks with the hand pump to transfer the fuel, shouldn't get ant spills with one of those.

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UncleWillie

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Did not know that was a law, have seen it done at our public launch many times, in fact have seen it done at most public launches.
I guess the next thing would be the fuel tanks with the hand pump to transfer the fuel, shouldn't get any spills with one of those.

I don't know if it is a Law either.
All our local ramps have a sign to the effect of, "Absolutely No refueling permitted anywhere in the area of the Ramp!"
Marinas will absolutely say NO if you ask.

I guess if you don't ask, no one will tell you not to! :rolleyes:

A fuel pump would be a reasonable way to transfer fuel and minimize the chance of a spill. I Like the idea!
When I said to try it in the driveway, I really was not just being funny.
A trial run to get the technique down is a good way to avoid the spill.

Heck, maybe one of those big Chemical Funnels is all you need.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Carrying extra fuel

I fill mine all the time in the water (but it's calm). I use a big funnel b/c the new ventless (vent thru the spout) cans are worthless to pour out the spout.
 

JASinIL2006

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Re: Carrying extra fuel

I haven't tried it with gas yet, but I bought something called a Super Jiggler that helps easily start a siphon to drain a gas can into my boat's tank. (We mostly boat on a lake in Canada with no marina, so all our gas is brought in via 5 gallon cans.)

I tried the Super Jiggler using a sink full of water and a 5 gallon bucket, and it really works well. I'm looking forward to trying it on the boat. It's just too easy to spill pouring gas out of can. I'm hoping this will make refueling a little 'greener'.

You can Google that product name and you'll find their site. I don't have anything to do with them... I just think it looks like a handy (and inexpensive) device.
 

Outsider

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Re: Carrying extra fuel

No Marinas or Public launch ramps will permit Manual Fuel Transfers anywhere on the water.

Don't you mean no marinas or public ramps allow manual fuel transfers at their facilities? 'Anywhere on the water' covers a right large area. Of course, it IS New York ... :faint2:
 

JoLin

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Re: Carrying extra fuel

I haven't tried it with gas yet, but I bought something called a Super Jiggler that helps easily start a siphon to drain a gas can into my boat's tank. (We mostly boat on a lake in Canada with no marina, so all our gas is brought in via 5 gallon cans.)

I tried the Super Jiggler using a sink full of water and a 5 gallon bucket, and it really works well. I'm looking forward to trying it on the boat.

Mine is called a 'super siphon'. Same product, different brand. It'll transfer 5 gallons of gas in about 4 minutes. Never spilled a drop.
 

wgl333

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Re: Carrying extra fuel

There is at least 1 marina near the start of your trip, at Tonawanda Creek Road, Amherst Marina that has fuel. I thought that Widewaters Marina in Lockport had fuel at one time. I have ordered a super siphon as well as I take spend a week on the St. Lawerence and love to cruise and sometimes just get to a point I would feel more secure having the extra fuel and it's tough trying to fuel while laying over the side from the sunpad!
 
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