Check out the progress on my "restoration"

soggy_feet

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Boat is a 1970 steel hull Stardust Cruiser 40 who had exhausted her re-plating on the bow. I figured it was time to dump the dead weight and start fresh.

https://plus.google.com/photos/100315182670889068613/albums/5708911482929678545

I'm linking right to the album, as theres about 90 pictures spanning from mid-February to now, and it'll get a few more updates before I'm finally done.

Let me know what you think!

Matt
 

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Re: Check out the progress on my "restoration"

Matt,

looking good........... looks like major work but the weather has been good.

Bob
 

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This project has made me picky with what I call good weather.
Cold or cold and rainy - kinda crappy
60's/70's - amazing
75+ - miserable for weld work.


I have about 25ft of weld left to lay, and then figure out if I use the LED arrays I built for underwater lights, or if I just cap the holes I cut for them and deal with it next year.
after that, I can finish coat with the coal tar epoxy, and splash the boat.
I move on to the next project after that, finish re-renovating the galley now that I have a propane fridge and furnace to fit up.
 

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Oh I know this is kind of late........ but based on your pictures of the "used" discs ......... last year I rebuilt my Chev 2500 and could not keep up with buying grinding discs until I got these at a parts store http://www.amazon.com/3M-01407-Green-Corps-Roloc/dp/B00186EWF4 very pricey but worth every penny since they last so long.

I am also sure there is an RV dealer (online) in Montpelier who has ALL of the propane parts you might need (if any). My friends and I use him for parts (propane fridge, lights, stove, water heater etc) at our hunting camp.

+1 on the weather ;) not to mention the sunburns from all that welding.
 

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Thanks for the heads-up on the grinding disks, i'll have to check them out.
I do a lot of metal work, so it might be late for this project but I'll have another soon enough.

I'll look into the RV place too. Thanks!


Matt
 

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Good lord that's a lot of work man! :)

I remember reading a thread of your's talking about a redesign of the bow but lost track of it. I see you've added the fin. (don't have a clue of what it should be called) Is that the only change? Also what is hopeful outcome on handling. I'd even take a link to another thread if you've explained it elsewhere.
 

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Added a few more pics, the original link should work the same, just a few more photos in the album.


TDF, my original plan was to try to go the scientific route and actually calculate flow around the hull, to see if there was anything specific I could do to make the boat more efficient. That was eating up a lot of time and with no guarantee that I'd see improvement, or be able to fabricate to the new design, so I did what I do best. Wing it.

Original plan was to attach the steel as you see it in the parking lot pic where it's painted black, looking much like a stealth bomber. But that was going to require a bunch of backer pieces to fill the gaps between the new steel, and the old deck, and on top of that, the 2 halves didnt want to bend up equally.
I sat on the tailgate of the truck scratching my head when I decided to look at a few of the boats around me for inspiration. Thats when I decided on the stepped bow, and added what I've been referring to as "the skirt".
It was easier to handle 8ft long, 10" wide pieces of steel to curve them to shape, and hold them in position to weld that it ever would have been to pull the full 450lb up into a symmetric position.
I believe this also gives me the benefit of added buoyancy in rough weather when the bow wants to cut into the back sides of waves in a following sea. - I've had 4" of water piled against the outside of the sliding glass door on the front of the cabin...
It should also help divert my bow wave out, below the deck line. If Im in a hurry and open up the throttle (top speed to date:12mph), water sometimes splashes up on deck, usually when crossing someones wake, even a small wave..

The "V" I added to it should also help smooth out the ride, by providing a wave splitting action. The original steel was like driving your car into the wall of your garage every 3-5 seconds. Annoying, and sometimes unnerving when it gets a little rough, and then entire boat shutters with every wave.
It also adds a little more buoyancy, when under way with guests, they're often times sitting up front, which has made the boat plow in the past.


So, in the end, I threw out the scientific approach, went by more of an artistic approach, and I have my fingers crossed that I have full penetration welds everywhere it counts, because I DO NOT want to have to get into this project again once I splash it.


I would like to point out, that all of that work has been done solo. My girlfriend gave me a hand slapping some primer on the thing last night, thats the first help I've had, and possibly because of that, I've logged about 150hrs on this project.

I'm also in probably $2000 between steel, weld wire, shielding gas, grinding and cutoff wheels, paint and gasoline for the generator.

I figure though, if I had hired someone to do this, I'd probably have to double or triple the money invested.
 

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Oh, and while I was at it, I made some beer money.


https://plus.google.com/photos/100315182670889068613/albums/5756120859470276737


Was talking with a guy with a 60's Chriscraft Roamer (another steel hull), and he said he'd been thinking about modifying for a walk thru transom. Ended up doing the work for him. Here's a few pics I shot.
Ended up deciding on a slide in door so there's no hinged parts swinging around and blocking off the swim platform. I still need to form the slider. Im using UHMW, UV resistant plastic, and it'll follow the curve of the transom to look like it was the original design.

I waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy undercharged for this job, but he's a good guy, and there's something to be said about networking.
 

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Thanks for the run through.

Pretty daunting task doing all that by yourself but the finished product looks great! Definitely deserves a cold one even if you had to do a side job for it. Nice job on that too by BTW. :)
 

soggy_feet

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Thanks!

I have a few loose ends to tie up still, I either need to finish the underwater lights, or cap off the holes I had made for them, I need to put some white paint on the top side, recoat everything I can with the remaining 3.75 gallons of coal tar epoxy (which is an excellent/cheap alternative to interlux if you don't mind black), fire up the boat on the 'muffs, and scrape together money for mooring rent.

Once Im on the water, I have an LP forced air furnace to install, and an LP fridge, which will take a lot of redesign of the galley. The fridge is 2" taller than my countertop, and it needs something like a flue built around the back of it for passive ventilation/cooling.

It really is true what they say about boats... they are holes in the water you throw money into...
 

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Just my luck.... the day I plan on roughing up the old coaltar to paint over it, I get 3/4 of teh way done and my grinder dies on me. Then it starts raining, and it looks like a 40% chance every day this week.

It'll cure when its damp/raining, as long as I get at least one dry day to put the stuff on. Was planning on being on the water friday! ARGH!
 

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THE BOAT LAUNCHES IN LESS THAN 4 HOURS!


Oh man, Im anxious. Four months of work, with a lot of sweat, and a bit of blood, but I'm finally going to reap the fruits of my labor with practically hours before 4th of July festivities start on the water.
 

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Well it's been 6 hrs so hopefully all went well with the launch.

Be interested to hear about how the redesign works out.

Above all have a happy and safe 4th and enjoy those fruits! :D
 

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All went well with the new steel, but i was a bit disappointed to find a couple small slits in the rubber boot that attaches to the exhaust riser, and i think i might have a small leak coming from the driveshaft bellows. I just replaced that bellows last year, and I made sure to store it with the drive down.
The riser can be fixed on the water, the bellows will have to wait until fall. I might put a plastic tray down in the bilge to collect the dripping water so the steel can stay dry back there.

First impressions?

Aesthetically, its beautiful.
The step in the hull keeps the spray down as I expected, but the lake was fairly calm yesterday, so I haven't had a chance to see how it reacts to waves.
Kinda neat to stick my head down into the V and look out the tiny portholes under water. Still need to mount up the lights that will fit behind them.

Need to run a tank of gas thru the boat with plenty of lead substitute, valves are a little loud, and what gas I had was left over from last year, so I'm 2mph slower than last fall at this point. Don't know if its from the engine being low on power, or the redesign.

2mph doesn't sound like a lot until you remember that WOT is usually 12mph.

I should get a good cleanout this evening, I plan on going from the bay down to the Burlington waterfront for fireworks. Should be about 12 miles, one way. Gonna hit the checkbook hard filling up after all the boat work and launching fee, so I might bring the boat to shore and fill up with pump gas from jerry cans.
 

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So what kind of power is behind that led sled? and remember it's not always about speed.
 

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250cu/in I-6 with a pre-alpha merc outdrive. Rocker cover says 165HP.

Its not always about speed, but when it takes 45 minutes to get to the service dock, or 2 hours to cross the lake (or go to the fireworks), sometimes you get sick of sitting behind the wheel when you could be sitting in the sun with a beer.
 

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Glad to hear the launch went well and I'm sure you're glad that the leak was a rubber part and not a weld.

Looked at the launch pics and though what happened to the red? Then I remembered it was just primer. :facepalm: Did kinda like the look of it gave it that big ship feel.
 

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Wow thats some great looking metal work very nice !
 

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I really did like the red. Bought a gallon of "Regal Red" to paint a nice fat waterline stripe down the side of the boat, but my launch window was narrow, and I skipped the line painting to get it in the water for the fireworks. Hopefully in the fall she'll get dressed up properly.
 
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