Could someone please help me with this V-Drive

Helpmetomcruise

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Hi there everyone calm seas and sunny sky's to all of you. So could anyone please walk me through the process of replacing the prop and rudder + rudder shaft on a 1977 Carver 2866 Santa Cruz? This is a 28 ft inboard single engine v-drive with the rudder shaft protruding down through its packing box directly aft of the prop and prop shaft strut underneath the stern of the vessel. The vessel is already out of the water and I'm pretty sure that the parts in question are original to the boats manufacture date and I know for sure that they've spent a good long while in the salt. I'm good with tools and mechanically inclined, also have limited experience with working on much smaller outboard motors and boats. This Carver v-drive is just a whole nother beast and would appreciate the advice. Thank you in advance and have a wonderful day.
 

alldodge

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Replacing parts is easy enough to explain, doing it takes some work.

Before getting into that, why does the rudder need replacing?

Pulling the prop takes removing the carter pin, remove nut and then need a prop puller. There are different sizes and depends on size of shaft and prop. An example is below

https://www.deepblueyachtsupply.com...7qyC6xYK3xhp_FfZjYiIVWJvgZfeDuUMaArRWEALw_wcB

Once removed it will depend on how the shaft is attached to the transmission. The shaft will go completely thru the trans or is flange mounted. In any case the alignment is the same, the difference is if it comes flush to the front of trans or the rear.

There are 4 bolts and a key way which is removed prior. The shaft should be sanded so it will be easier to pull out once prop is removed

Trans alignment.jpg
 

Helpmetomcruise

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Replacing parts is easy enough to explain, doing it takes some work.

Before getting into that, why does the rudder need replacing?

Pulling the prop takes removing the carter pin, remove nut and then need a prop puller. There are different sizes and depends on size of shaft and prop. An example is below

https://www.deepblueyachtsupply.com...7qyC6xYK3xhp_FfZjYiIVWJvgZfeDuUMaArRWEALw_wcB

Once removed it will depend on how the shaft is attached to the transmission. The shaft will go completely thru the trans or is flange mounted. In any case the alignment is the same, the difference is if it comes flush to the front of trans or the rear.

There are 4 bolts and a key way which is removed prior. The shaft should be sanded so it will be easier to pull out once prop is removed


The rudder and prop wound up scraping when this boat was initially pulled out of the water onto the homemade trailer that I designed for it. Ok let me rewind a little bit here this boat had to be pulled out of the water all of a sudden light when the previous owner had been living aboard it at a local marina and had both packing boxes begin to fail well the packing in them I should say began to fail. and he began to take on water at a pretty steady rate to the point where his bilge pump had to be going 24/7 just to keep him afloat eventually his onboard pump couldn't keep up and he had to periodically run a gas powered emergency pump to empty out his bilge completely. The marina he was moored at caught wind of this and revoked is moorage due to violations of their seaworthiness rules which could have caused their insurance to be revoked. So with no where to take it and not being able to afford to have it hauled out and repaired properly he contacted me in a panic and I threw together a trailer for it and we proceeded to try to get it out of the water. Well as you can imagine things didn't go as smoothly as we'd hoped for and wound up dragging the prop and rudder up the ramp until it leveled out at the top. So slight bend to the rudder shaft and both rudder and prop with bent or otherwise damaged blades and now they have to be replaced. No there is no structural damage to either of the packing boxes not the prop shaft strut or surrounding fiberglass
 

alldodge

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Don't know the full details but , remove the props and shafts. Take some pics and post
 

Ned L

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If they are not terribly bent the prop can be reconditioned and the rudder straightened by any decent machine shop, both for a fraction of the cost of replacements. The directions you received above are good. Don't try to pull the prop without a decent prop puller, you will just damage things.
 
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