Debate Over The Moon

18rabbit

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There is a lot going on in Washington this week with China. One of the two hottest topics is the race for the moon, (the other being China’s under-valuing of her currency).<br /><br />China's ambition to make a trip to the moon is causing an intense debate among U.S. legislators.<br /><br />"If China beats us to the moon, we will have lost the space program," said Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., who chairs the House Appropriations subcommittee that oversees NASA. Lawmakers are pushing to accelerate the U.S. space program, approving $1.1 billion more than Bush's $16.8 billion for NASA for fiscal 2007.<br /><br />What could you do with and extra $1.1-billion? And where is that extra money coming from? (Hint: April 15th was just a few days ago). And why was $1.1-billion just laying around? We can’t keep illegal Mexicans from decimating our economy but we have $1.1-billion lying around?<br /><br />Ok, I’m being silly. There’s really more to it than that. I think we are going to see more and more money thrown at the project to get back on the moon. And this time we might be able to see/watch some activity on the surface of the moon as I suspect ‘they’ will be landing on the side that faces the earth this time.<br /><br />What you aren’t being told: the next generation of weapons is space based. I believe the $17.9-billion congress put toward going back to the moon is actually the seed money for our entry in to the space-based weapons race. The moon is seen as the idea launching platform for missiles. Whomever has the best setup on the moon shall dominate the entire surface of the Earth. It is no coincidence that China, Russia, and the US suddenly started racing for that otherwise valueless wasteland that is the moon. <br /><br />The idea is a missile launch system can be put inside of a crater, designed to raise above the rim, fire and sink back down, like the big guns that protected the West Coast during WWII. And being inside of a crater it is protected from incoming projectiles from Earth. No atmosphere on the moon means not easy (and expensive) to develop ordinance that will turn a corner and enter a crater. Targeting from the moon is as simple as waiting for your target to rotate into view. The missile’s flight time and thus vulnerability once inside the earth’s atmosphere, is as short as it can possibly be.<br /><br />There is absolutely no other reason to go back to the moon, and why we haven’t been back there. It’s a wasteland, useless. Fwiw, a member of my extended family recently was hired into JPL (Jet Propulsion Lab) on a feasibility project/study for sending a manned craft to Saturn; the target date: 2015. I guarantee you no one is looking at the moon for reasons of exploration. Besides, whatever we need from the moon we can obtain remotely without the add’l expense and liability of sending a man there.
 

bootle

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Re: Debate Over The Moon

The moon is probably the best place to use as a toxic dump site, though not presently a financially feasible option.<br /><br />I really could'nt care less about the moon, providing that no one decides to move it to a different orbit.
 

18rabbit

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Yeah, all of that time and energy to develop computer based tide tables would be wasted if they moved they moon.<br /> :D
 
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DJ

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There are bigger fish to fry, for now.<br /><br />If someone (China) is planning on using the Moon as a weapons platform, that becomes a different story.<br /><br />
No atmosphere on the moon means not easy (and expensive) to develop ordinance that will turn a corner and enter a crater.
Not really, that's what "thrusters" are for. The "ordnance" can go as slow as we want it to. As stated, there is no atmosphere. It could "hover" forever.<br /><br />Give the USA 20 years, they're won't be anything left here to shoot at anyway.
 

JB

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Wow! Put ignorance and conspiracy theory imagination together and viola!, something else to blame Bush for.
 

Ron G

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I thought we was going put a nike logo on it and some motels? :D <br /><br /> Stoping our space programs was one of our biggest mistakes imo.
 

roscoe

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H3 energy developement.<br />H3 may just get us out of the oil game if it works out.<br />The moon has tons and tons of H3
 

Limited-Time

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Race for the moon???? :confused: Does this date ring a bell, July 20, 1969??? Almost 37 years ago. So unless China is building a time machine......................... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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DJ

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Hey, the "popular" thought is we never got there. Along with the Holocaust-hoax.<br /><br />WWII was American "Imperialism".<br /><br />Ignorance is bliss. We're handing it out, in spades, in government schools. <br /><br />Don't believe me, look for a WWII references in a modern school/text book. If it's mentioned-who's the bad guy? US, of course.<br /><br />Give me a break.
 

tommays

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We will be fighting down here over OIL and the goverments they chose to support to insure there OIL supply LONG before the moon becomes and issue<br /><br /><br />tommays
 
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DJ

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We will be fighting down here over OIL and the goverments they chose to support to insure there OIL supply LONG before the moon becomes and issue<br />
Yes, we will. The dirty little secret is that we have PLENTY, right underneath us. But, we can't touch it. Enviro-nazi's have made sure of that.<br /><br />Our "competition" (Chinese) will be buying it from whomever they can. If we don't produce, we become a "non-contributor" to world progress.<br /><br />We'll be stuck trying to save the "elusive" world environment while our competition is trashing it.<br /><br />But, don't we FEEL better?
 
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