Did My First Solo Trip

JimKW

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After reading the thread on here, I finally went out and tried it solo today. It went well, but not great. It was not very busy when I went out so that was good. Had a little trouble backing down the ramp again. This single axle trailer is much harder to back than the tandems I have had in the past, but I get it done.

Several guys offered to help me, but I said I will let them know if I need help and thanks, but I am really trying to do it solo. Same thing on return when it had gotten very crowded (about 14 boats waiting to get in when I got my truck & trailer).

Going out I did not get that close to the dock, so I tied the bow to my winch tower and also threw a stern line up on the dock which came in quite handy. When I got the boat floating somebody grabbed the stern line for me. I didn't have the nerve to say "hey I'm doing this myself". I just said thanks. I got the boat in a little too far and had to walk into the water to get the bow line. Next time I will pull the truck up a little instead of just walking in the water. The bow line was long enough for this.

Then I took the stern line and the bow line and walked it way back on the dock and tied it up good. Had a little trouble untieing the boat from the dock by myself. Luckiy I have that extension pole with a hook that I used to keep the stern from going out while I untied the bow from the dock.

Coming back in it was very busy and I docked it on the courtesy dock while I went for the truck & trailer. I did that 45 degree angle thing I read about on here whenreyou come in at 45 d then hit reverse and turn the stern into the dock. I swear it worked like a champ and I looked like a pro. A lady waiting for her husband to come back to load their boat did take my bow line and tie if for me, and again I just said thanks and told her this was my first time trying it alone. She was impressed that I would even try. Said her husband wouldn't dare try.

Then I got the truck & trailer in the water real good and close to the dock, but I listened to another guy and put the trailer in a little too far and the boat got off on the trailer and I had a hard time backing it off and got sideways in the loading area again. I eventually got it straigtened out and did a pretty good job. Had I not backed in so far I'm pretty sure the trailer would have pulled the boat straight the way I hit it.

Now comes my question: I was about three or four feet from the bow stop and managed to use my hook pole to get the strap hooked up onto the bow hook. I got out and started cranking it in and it was very hard to pull it in. I thought the strap might break. I decided to back the truck up a little further down the ramp which made it somewhat easier to crank. One guy said never back up any further while another guy says he backs his up far enough to where he can just drive right up to the bow stop. Said he broke his strap trying to pull it in with the winch. His boat probably weighs twice as much as mine so I could see his point.

So I gues I have learned quite a bit reading this forum.

Just want to say THANKS GUYS!!!
 

rs1lollie

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Re: Did My First Solo Trip

Do you have a bunk trailer or roller? I have a 18' bowrider with a single axle trailer and bunks, I back in so that about 8 - 10 inches of the bunk is still above the water and pull my boat onto the trailer with a dock line it gets me about a 1 1/2' a way from the bow bumper and then I winch it the rest of the way. doing it this way I have never had it cockeyed on the trailer as the bunks straighten the boat out.
 

JimKW

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It's a bunk trailer. Had a roller trailer on the boat I had 20 years ago and it was much easier to pull on with the winch. Every other time I hit the middle of the trailer it pulled the boat perfectly straight, but it didn't this time. I ended up on the right side of the trailer off center. It would not back off good at all and I didn't know which way the engine was turned trying to back off. Pretty sure I could have got it moved over by backing the truck further and floating the boat a little.
 

LIQUID PROZAC

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Re: Did My First Solo Trip

way to go--nothing like trial and error--at least you got the nerve up to do it now all you can do is improve from here:D
 

justchange

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Re: Did My First Solo Trip

Sounds like your first solo experience went well. Good for you!!!!


I have a roller trailer and was told by one man to leave the tops of the fenders showing. I back in more than enough to float most of the boat then have to back and stop quickly to get the bow off the trailer.

Retriving, I tie the boat to the dock, back in so the trailer is well under the boat [about the same depth as launch] unwind the winch, hook it to the bow and crank it in.

I want to add more and newer rollers as these are rather worn. This'll make the entire thing easier.

From what I've seen, most with roller trailers can drive thier boats up to the bow stop. Sure'd be nice to do that!!!


You may want to look into the roller bunks that are available. Be easier that way. ;)
 

eaglejim

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Re: Did My First Solo Trip

Every time I put in and take out mrseagle disappears :confused:Thank God I put in at a private ramp:D but thanks to her(and this site,learned some good tips) I can put in and take out in a matter of minutes
 

RepoMan207

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Re: Did My First Solo Trip

Jim, Good for you man!

A few side notes....

BACKING...I have a Class A license and have driven anything from box trucks to Condo Kenworths with Double 53' trailers. The trickiest is TOWING a tractor trailer and having to back all three at once. The little trailers kick your butt because the response time is much quicker. If I only gave you one piece of advice on the subject of backing; it would be to go VERY slowly (turtle slow), and make VERY small corrections at first. Eventually you'll fall right back into your stride and get it in one shot every time.

As novice as it may sound, Hit a vacant parking lot one night with the trailer. Try to hit a particular slot from different angles. After you repeatedly hit it, purposely start your backing from an awkward position to gain optimal experience.

BUNK TRAILERS....From what you are describing, your not backed in far enough. Back in until the top of your trailers fenders are below the water by a few inches. The object here is to get the stern of the boat to float just slightly on the trailer. CAUTION..when doing this on a new ramp or for the first time, always make sure your vehicles tail pipe isn't under the water & check where the end of the ramp is. Some lunches have short runways. There are certain ramps I will avoid, just because there either too shallow or the dock arrangement isn't long enough. Your floating the boat, not your truck!

Bunk Trailer Launch Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkXRDkrNX0o
 

4JawChuck

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Congrats! Welcome to the solo club!;)

Couple more times and it will be routine!:)
 

Lion hunter

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One thing I would reccomend for backing is learn to use mirrors and do it the same way all the time.

Way back when my Grandfather made me learn to back a single axle pintle hook army trailer. Worst experiene of my life (not really but at 13 I thought it was). He wouldn't let me turn my head, had to use mirrors to get it in the bay. If I look over my shoulder to back now I screw up so bad, mirrors I'm good and can see everything and its natural.
 

5150abf

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I just use a single bow line, loop enough in the trailer to get the boat off the trailer ,loop a bit more in the front of the bed and take the rest into the truck with me, when the baot starts to come off put it in park and get out and guide the boat to the dock, working 2 lines seems like twice the work.

I tied knots starting 3' from the end so if you feel knots going through your hand you knwo you are out of rope.

As Lion Hunter said, learn to back using your mirrors, as you are backing turn the wheel the way the trailer is goingto keep it straight, so if the trailer starts to drift left turn the wheel left.

Backing too far in is the biggest mistake I see at the ramp, you need enough trailer out of the water to catch the boat, every ramp and trailer are a little different btu you will find a spot on the trailer to back to to get it every time, on mine I have 2 keel rollers, if you just get the seciond roller touching the water the boat goes on perfect every time.

It will all come with experience and you are of coarse getting your boat ready to launch and take home in the prep area and NOT on ther ramp right.
 

JimKW

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That was a good video, but that was two guys both knowing what they are doing. Like to see the same video where one guy did it all. When my son in law goes with me, we do it a lot like those two guys. It's pretty easy when either one of us can do the boat or the truck.

I never do anything on the ramp except get my boat in or out of the water. Everything else is done in the parking lot. Usually near the Men's room when I get the boat out of the water seems like I always need to visit that place.

One thing I have really learned is the heck with eveybody who is in a hurry. I'm doing the best I can and doing my best to be considerate of others.

Man one guy was really a jerk yesterday when I was coming back in. Started making a real seen yelling at another guy who must have jumped in front of him in line, taking too much time or something. Could not tell exactly what happened but he was yelling very loud obscenities (including the F word) at the other guy. There were 14 boats in line at this point.

It's a nice day here today so I might ask for the afternoon off to cut the grass and then go out solo again. I'm only 15 minutues from the ramp and the boat is still hooked up to the truck. Grass is real long though and it's a two hour job to cut it.
 

bigskiohio

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Re: Did My First Solo Trip

try this put your hand at bottom of steering wheel an turn it in the direction you want trailer to go very small ,slow adjustments.
 

JimKW

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That's what I do. I am not that bad at backing it up. I back up a fairly big utility trailer on the back of my JD Lawn tractor. Now that's a job, but good practice. Just every once in a while when it gets off I over compensate and get it real crooked. I have learned to just pull forward until everything is straight and start from there.

Yesterday I was really trying to get as close to possible to the dock since I was trying it solo. Going to take it to a parking lot and try learn using mirrors more though. With the tractor and trailer there are no mirrors. I have also towed two Travel Trailers and another boat, but all these had tandem axles which seemed much easier to control.
 

divimon2000

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Nice story, good job. My motto: Just do it and act like you own it.
 

JimKW

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Took it out again today and did fine. Wife was with me, but she really didn't do that much. Found that if I put my trailer fenders about 2 inches under the water it is perfect. Boat floats right off the trailer and it comes right up to the bow stop coming in. I was able to hook it from inside the boat, then stepped out on the trailer and cranked it up just a little and hooked the chain.

At this point I was above the water and my feet had not got wet. I had water shoes on and really didn't mind getting them wet. But this board seems to make it a challenge to not get your feet wet. So I stepped up on the truck bumper and jumped a few feet to the waters edge. Not bad for a 60 year old guy.

I tried backing the trailer up in the back yard a little using just the mirrors. I will need MUCH more practice. I get really confused doing it this way. When I turn around and watch the boat or trailer, I know exactly which way to turn the wheel. I did perfect on both back ins today. I do use my mirrors quite a bit, but when I am making turns I need to turn and look. I was the same way when I pulled the travel trailers too.
 

RepoMan207

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I tried backing the trailer up in the back yard a little using just the mirrors. I will need MUCH more practice. I get really confused doing it this way. When I turn around and watch the boat or trailer, I know exactly which way to turn the wheel. I did perfect on both back ins today. I do use my mirrors quite a bit, but when I am making turns I need to turn and look. I was the same way when I pulled the travel trailers too.

The transition from neck bending to mirror is a challenge. I over came it by confidence....meaning once I got the trailer to a point were I knew exactly how it was going to react to my next move, I would watch the mirror instead of turning around, then I would make my adjustment for my next maneuver by turning around, and again watch it in the mirror as I executed it. After awhile, you'll be turning the wheel correctly while your mind is just starting to question if your turning the wheel the right way or not. That stage is always fun too, if you get to that point, just remember to trust your instincts; don't think, just do.

Another way if you have a truck is to block your rear window with cardboard.....even just half of it. You should of seen me on my first tractor trailer trip.....there is no window to look out to double check yourself in a Sleeper truck. I had to get out and look every time I preformed a maneuver for the first 2 months.
 

WAVENBYE2

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Well alright!! Add a couple of more notches to your belt:D. Becareful not to back the trailer into the water too far because some ignorant uh humm will go flying by and the wake will beat you all the death if the trailer is to deep in the water and your just floating above it. If you use the same spot for a regular then you'll figure out what is good. on mine where I put in the fenders are a couple of inches above the water (differant ramp) to where the boat is easy to crank up but where the boat doesn't move side to side because of the waves, You'll figure out where your trailer works best. Great job!! And glad we all can help. Thanks for the feedback and letting us know.
 

4JawChuck

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He-he, gotta love not getting your feet wet!:cool:

I took the boy out yesterday for a day of fishing and we came in a little too hot into the dock at 45 degrees (my cellphone started ringing so I was distracted at a key moment), I hit reverse and cranked the wheel towards the dock a little faster than I usually do and bought the boat to a stop perfectly parallel to the dock while the stern wave bumped us in to within an inch away from the bumpers.

I could see the people at the ramp kinda wincing like I was going to hit the dock at speed but it was a perfect parking job...I hopped out of the boat with a "Yea, I meant to do that" look on my face while I answered the phone. I popped the trailer into the water and pulled the boat onto the trailer in about three minutes all while on the phone, when I closed the phone and went to hop into the Van I heard clapping...here there were a line of people up on the hill at the dock with lawn chairs waving and clapping at me and raising their beers.

I had to laugh, these people were camped out at the dock for the loading escapades that accompany every Sunday evening load up...glad it was entertaining.:D

I was strapping her down in the staging area when one of them came over, I thought he was going to going to ask me over to have a beer but he wanted to buy my boat! I politely declined but told him about a good dealer in the area that I am sure would help him out.

As he walked away he turned and said "BTW that was the best one so far tonight! you will have to show me how you do that when I get my boat!" I didn't have the heart to tell him I really didn't mean to come in so fast, I nearly had a heart attack!

Great day...but no Walleyes, got a few nice size Northerns for fun in the weeds. Like they say a bad day fishing is better than a great at work!:)

P.S. Another good tip for the boat launch:

Always make your bowline short enough that it can't reach the prop, that way if you forget about it when you launch or it slides off the boat when your underway there isn't a panic about it going into the prop.;)
 

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Trailer depth when loading is very important and It took me awhile to figure this out when I started boating. Congrats I have gotten to where I enjoy doing it alone and usually time myself.
 

JimKW

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Thanks again guys.

Not quite sure I am ready to put myself on the clock yet, but maybe next year.

Good story abou the people on lawn chairs watching the docks. Does sound like it would be entertaining to watch.

And if I put cardboard in my back window I would hang my head out the driver's window to see behind me. I am going to go somewhere and practice with the mirrors though.

When I did the 45 degree docking thing this time I was perfect, but wife was in the bow and didn't catch the dock and I could not get there quick enough and the boat got away from the dock and I could not find the pole with the hook. It was all her fault cause I was perfect. Had to back off and redo and did it a 2nd time almost as good as the first.
 
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