Difference between a 9.9hp and 15hp Johnson?

ShafferNY

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Forgive me if this has been asked and answered before, but what is the difference between a 2003 9.9hp Johnson outboard and a 15hp?

I've been told that there is a difference in carburetor and the prop, but basically they're identical. Is this true? Seems to me the displacement would probably be different also.

TIA
 

ShafferNY

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Re: Difference between a 9.9hp and 15hp Johnson?

BTW, we're talking two strokes here. :D
 

Rick.

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Re: Difference between a 9.9hp and 15hp Johnson?

If you were to do a search on this topic you will be reading all weekend. Very debated topic. The easy answer is...5.1 HP. Best of luck. Rick.
 

ShafferNY

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Re: Difference between a 9.9hp and 15hp Johnson?

I did do a search, but I didn't get much. I found a few topics regarding other brands, but nothing on Johnsons.

I'll keep looking around.
 

ChrisAG

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Re: Difference between a 9.9hp and 15hp Johnson?

The search function on this site isn't very good. It seems you need more than three characters per word, so just entering "9.9 15" will return zilch. Entering "Johnson 15" will return everything with "Johnson" but the "15" will be ignored. However, entering "15hp" will return results, but any posts that might have contained "15 hp" (space between) will not show up.

However, I'll give you some info on the differences:

Standard propellers are the same for both 9.9 and 15 thrughout the 1974-92 lifecycle of these engines, 9.5"x10"

1974-78: No difference except for the carburetor. Both motors share a square exhaust tube that seals with the gearcase, creating a "wall of water" from spilloff accumulation in the midsection that helps silence the motor. The water overflow exits through the top exhaust relief ports. Exhaust gas exits through the prop.

Note: One of the 1977 OMC brochures (Johnson or Evinrude) claimed an "increase in top speed" for the 15 starting that year, but I don't know of any additional difference from the 9.9 that accomplished this. The claim was definitely made before the spacers were added in 1979 (see below). My best guess is the carburetor bore was made even larger on the 15 starting in 1977, but perhaps someone else could confirm this.

1979+: spacers added at intake reeds on the 15 to improve throttle response.

1981-84: 15 now has tuned exhaust (shorter, rounder tube) to increase torque. This results in more mixing of the exhaust and exiting cooling water. Little (if any) water exits through the top of the midsection's exhaust relief port. Some believe this made the 15 louder. There were also changes to compression ratio & timing (according to 1981 OMC brochures). 15's full-throttle operating range increases by 500 rpm over pre-1981 model. All these changes apparently gave a true 15hp measurement at the prop instead of the flywheel (OMC may have been prompted to do this due to increased market competition, and possibly because some felt the 15 wasn't a huge enough power leap from the 9.9).

1985: 15 has exhaust tube reshaped again, squarish but still short.

1990: 9.9 now shares same short, square exhaust tube with 15.

In various years there were changes that affected both motors at the same time, such as a powerhead redesign that placed the thermostat at the top, and a push-pull throttle cable instead of the metal twist linkage.
 
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Rick.

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Re: Difference between a 9.9hp and 15hp Johnson?

ChrisAG: Well done. How could we get TD to put your reply in the Top Secret File? That would be a good place for it. You've reported the facts without any editorializing. Rick.
 

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Re: Difference between a 9.9hp and 15hp Johnson?

Just realized the original poster was asking about the 2003 motors. There were more differences between the 9.9 & 15 for the 1993-2005 generation than in the prior generation, and thus it would take a bit more work to "upgrade" to a 15.
 

1946Zephyr

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Re: Difference between a 9.9hp and 15hp Johnson?

ChrisAG: Well done. How could we get TD to put your reply in the Top Secret File? That would be a good place for it. You've reported the facts without any editorializing. Rick.

Getting TD do add anything to the top secret file, is like pulling hen's teeth. Good Luck.;)

He has done a great job to create it though. You just need to do some research on previous posts here to come up with your own conclusion.

ChrisAG has done a great job here though.:D:D
 
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