Do you think this Old Whaler is Worth 700?

robert graham

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Re: Do you think this Old Whaler is Worth 700?

Just the hull is worth $700, as long as there's no major damage or holes in it. Looks like a great project boat, just strip it down to the hull and start replacing what needs replacing. Motor would make a good anchor or artificial reef. Go for it and when you get done, you'll have something nice, and when you get ready to sell it, no problem,you can always sell a whaler! Good Luck!
 

Huron Angler

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Hard to say if it's worth restoring...mostly depends on if that transom is shot or if it can handle the torque of an outboard without cracking the fiberglass.

Take a good look at it and see how much flex the transom has to get a better idea. Hard to tell without a moisture meter unless there's visible rot on any exposed transom wood.

If the transom needs rebuilt i can be done, check out the restoration section for an idea of what if would entail.

The deck may also need work, which would also be a big job.

I will say that the Whaler Sport is a well-designed hull and would be a great little rig with some work.

I would try to talk him down unless that outboard runs well.

Welcome to the site, and good luck to ya!:)
 

robert graham

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Re: Do you think this Old Whaler is Worth 700?

Another thing, my brother-in-law in Florida had a 13' Whaler just like that with a 40HP Honda 4 stroke on it, and that was one sweet ride!
 

yjanray

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Thanks for the replies guys. I rebuilt my 79 sea ray 190 this past spring, and it was a PITA. I guess i'm not in the mood to tackle another fiberglass project again, just yet.

So what makes those Whaler hulls so strong to impacts?
 

robert graham

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The Whalers are foam-filled fiberglass, advertised to be unsinkable. Cut them in 2 with a saw and the halves won't even sink! Whalers have an almost cult-following, and hold their value very well. Check 'em out at the boat show sometime, but the prices for a new one are clean out of sight!
 

paw2000

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Devils advocate, 40yr old boat, 40yr old hardware. Trailer buried in the ground, probably not safe to tow with. If you add up cost to get new hardware like steering, throttle control, another motor etc.. I think you can do better for the money.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/boa/2107289571.html

Just giving a different opinion, Whalers hold value, and in my area they are plentiful as they are popular. They use them in the back bays as rental boats. I think its alot of work for what it is. I like project boats myself, redid my BAyliner and got 3 good seasons, now it sits on a trailer waiting to be sold. I'm currently redoing an 89 Chris Craft 315 commander, so if you think its a good price, then its a good price. You have to decide how much is right and if you can do the work. Good luck on the project
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Willyclay

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I know a guy who "rescues" old Whaler 13's. He currently has three. All have working motors and are now seaworthy. Would make somebody a good project. The Golden Javelin should be of interest to some of the Johnnyrude fans. Good luck!
 

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You have to keep in mind one of the biggest issues with older Whalers, water absorbed into the foam. Go on continuouswave or whalercentral and post there, those guys are the experts...
 

pscrabber59

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I would pass on that whaler for $700, trailer looks like its buried into ground and not galvanized, wood looks to be in rough shape it may need replacement, motor is older one.
I bought a 11' whaler in Oct. of this year for $1500.
 

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Home Cookin'

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Grab it. But see if you can talk him down, or buy it without the trailer for $500. then:

Look inside the front seat well for the serial number--this is an original blue hull, so probably a low 4 digit? My '64 is a 2XXX, I think

Junk the trailer

Get rid of that cod-awful pedestal seat and don't let any more get near it!

give away the motor, maybe to the shop where you buy your replacement--or fix it up if the year matches?

Replace steering cables with plastic coated cable--no problem.

Belt sand the mahagony--it will be fine. Bonus is you have the front seat and the rub rail looks OK.

If he will let you, float test it. with no motor, the sides of the hull in the stern should be just above the water; if not it's waterlogged.

if it's waterlogged, you can't dry it out, and removing the floor isn't worth it. Pass. However, someone on continuous wave pointed out that the most water that could be in the hull can't weigh as much as an additional passenger so don't sweat it.

I recall that the transom is solid glass, not wood coore, but I could be wrong.

But here is an issue to look for: if it's sitting on a roller trailer, the edges of the rollers can crack the fiberglass hull. Luckily yours is a virgin bottom. On whalers, the weight is supposed to sit on the keel alone, with bunks maybe 3' long to steady it.

Put a 25 +/- on it. we always had a 1964 Evinrude 18 until a few years ago and it was fine, but the others on the river growing up had 33's, up to 40's. You want a short shaft.

Great boat for jumping tug boat waves. So I heard....
 

JupiterJoe

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wow thats down the street from my moms house. any way offer him 200 for it he will probably take it.. if not all well tell him the carb will need rebuilding agian and it need a grand worth of work a new motor hell he should pay you to take it .. I bought a 17 this summer for 300 no trl no motor but the hull was ok.. good luck
 

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Now there is a "barn find" if I ever saw one. It would involve some risk that the under-deck plywood (mahogany) has rot and less risk that the transom has some rot.

Foam saturation is a boogey man. Scares heck out of most folks but is easily drained and dried by one with patience.

Were I a few years younger I would snap her up. She looks a bit better than my Sport 13 did when I got her.

If you want to restore her be prepared to spend some bux on top quality fittings and mahogany.

Good luck. :)
 

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IMHO, any cheap Whaler is worth it. People love them, so I assume they are great -- even though I've never been in one
 

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And what a great engine. It looks like a '58 Super Sea Horse 35hp, also a good collectible Johnson.
 

Jet Wrench

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Make sure the foam in the hull is not saturated with water. Offer him $200.00 to start. I completed a 66 Sakonnet earlier this year. Paid $700.00 with a decent trailer. It took 3 months to complete. Hull fiberglass was crazed and needed a three coats of 2 part epoxy/primer to fill before paint. Here is a before and after shot. Lot's of work, but a nice hull after completion.

JW
 

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yjanray

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Re: Do you think this Old Whaler is Worth 700?

Thanks guys for the responses. I really didn't consider getting this boat until I heard your responses. I really like the steering wheel set-ups on these things. Is it possible to set it up as a CC. Is that possible with a 13'er, or should it just stay as a side console? Anyway, I am gonna plan on taking a look at it tomorrow, just to see how bad it really is. Thanks homecookin, you sound like you already got a plan in your head, so thanks for sharing!

I"ll let you guys know what I find.
 

Gary H NC

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Re: Do you think this Old Whaler is Worth 700?

At least it has been stored with the bow up.
That old Johnson motor would be sweet restored too...
If you decide to give away the motor just PM me!...:D

Offer 400 and see where it goes....;)

That would be a great project boat! I would buy it and have her on the water come Spring!
 

Home Cookin'

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stay with the side console, It's so tight that you basically sit toward the middle anyway. If it were in the center it would be in the way. The cables would have to reach across. More important, it wouldn't be original!
Just put your six gallon tank on the port side amidships. Mine is a pull start, so no battery, so it self bails with a small enough motor--but I was getting too much water in the stern--not a problem for weight but slime--so I rigged up a D cell pump to a float switch, which is all you need if you are close by.
A few days ago a guy on the Norfolk VA craigslist "boats" had some woodwork for a 13' for sale; he had sold the hull. It was for a newer model than yours, but worth a look.
 

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I've seen them around here anywhere from $3000 to $7000...running... depending on condition.

Keep her origional, I think changing anything about her would ruin it. She is ideal just the way she was made.

Good Luck...yjanray
 
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