Drywall, Peppers, Toys...

Edko

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Every few months it seems that something made in China is going to kill us. Just recently, we had the whole lead paint issue with toys. Now we have drywall with a sulfur compound turning homes into rotten egg smelling toxic nightmares. Just 2 examples in a long list.

I'll throw peppers from Mexico in here just so I'm not picking on China specifically.

Now, I am certainly not a protectionist, I understand we live in a world economy and all of that. But I am increasingly alarmed when I hear about things like this. Every year the US loses more and more of it's manufacturing base, and as such we rely on countries like China and other "labor cost friendly" nations to supply us with real, tangible goods. It seems like not only do these nations not have standards in their production, which is their fault...but we keep buying their garbage in massive quantities, which is ours.

I really don't know what the solution is, I know it is more expensive to produce in the US than other places. I just get concerned every time I hear about another toxic foreign product poisoning people, bought because it saved a few cents per unit. I suppose if we employed more inspectors, and actually enforced real and damaging penalties for shipping this junk, that would be a start. Since "Made in ____" will forever be a way of life, I would hope we step up precautions to protect the public more.
 

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Re: Drywall, Peppers, Toys...

Oooo... This lasted a half hour already! I wager it will get shut down (locked) by noon.
 

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Re: Drywall, Peppers, Toys...

I just heard about the drywall thing on the news :( It has been that way for years !!! This is sad and I think the cycle will reverse itself but, not at a record pace.

I don't know if more inspectors are the answer..... we need more researchers just to safety test the products. I hate to point a finger .....the "I want it now" generation is behind a chunk of this.

I live in a state where marble, granite and slate are valuable for building but there are cheaper products avialable from "outside" the US.

I am still a believer of buying local.
 

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It will be okay, but I agree someone will post names and titles of government positions locking this up.

Seems awful odd that drywall would be imported, but however with all the floods, and the rebuild of the hurricane stricken cities, I can see why there would be a demand for drywall causing it to be imported. Who knows anymore? It all boils down to Greed in some form or another.
 

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Re: Drywall, Peppers, Toys...

Oooo... This lasted a half hour already! I wager it will get shut down (locked) by noon.

This is not about politics.

The world is just a smaller place, and unfortunately it is news item and if you follow the cycle, we will have another one of these incidents a few months from now. The reality is, we have lost most of the manufacturing economy and as such, are open to these kinds of things.

Bob I agree to a certain aspect, heck I "want it now" sometimes too, which makes me as guilty as everyone and everything I am ranting about here. We already have laws and regulations that are designed to keep this junk from reaching the market, I suppose I just wish they would be more thoroughly enforced.

These issues are not confined to a specific product line, they pop up in many different market sectors, which indicates to me a wide reaching problem.

I do try to buy local, especially from the farmers and watermen.
 

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Now consider this the sulpher will create sulfuric acid and eat metal...... (Pressure treated wood eats metal too) ...... sounds like a possible start of a new business. Epoxy coating walls?

Hopefully there will be a way to track down where the drywall has been used.

Discussing the problem is one thing....... fixing the problem is the key.
 

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Haha Bob I like the solutions oriented aspect!
 

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Recent history is loaded with cases of products that turned out to be dangerous, many of them right here in the good old USA. Chicken, peanuts, spinach, beef, toys. . .even some marble from the great state of Vermont might emit unsafe levels of Radon.

This topic is loaded with invitations to pontificate on politics.

Thou shalt not.
 

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Re: Drywall, Peppers, Toys...

And I really hope it doesn't. Was certainly not the intent of the post.

I agree there are things made here that turn out bad, but in general there is at least the appearance of control, and certainly a legal recourse. The peanut guy for example, is cooked.

Maybe this all boils down to the age old adage, "you get what you pay for"?

In any case case I appreciate the opportunity to blow off a little morning news steam. When they reported this morning that this stuff is in 60k homes and insurance companies are probably not gonna cover it etc, it really set me off for some reason...Like people don't have enough to worry about.
 

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Now I am concerned about my 2 layed up marble walls in the basement ;) and maybe this will take the same route as lead paint abatement or asbestos problems.

I grew up with lead paint, lead sinkers, asbestos on the pipes, the tiles and the siding...... no car seats and no seat belts!!! :p

I refuse to take the chicken little route..... I refuse to worry about this one. ;) Like I had mentioned I see it as a business opportunity
 

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This taps into a much larger issue:

As consumers, we create the very conditions we decry.

Because we are willing to let the primary driver of our decisions be cost based - this means that the producers will look for means of decreasing cost. (This is at an overall level - "quality" products seem to be more a 'niche' market these days).

Sometimes decreasing costs means cutting corners, but the pressure is high. And most of the time these corners are not 'illegal' at the time.

This is also what has happened in the financial market. The 'buyers' did not fully understand what they were buying - the sellers obfusciated things. In that case, it would have been simple to say "don't buy it if you don't understand it". Of course, the greed for money overrode the need for caution.

Now, if we look at things from this point of view you will see that any regulation actually operates on the consumer (not the producer) by removing choices.
 

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This is not about politics.

No, but just the same: I sensed a "controversial topic", which is determined subjectively. I'm glad that it hasn't become so yet.
 
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