dumb starter ?s. 25 '72 evinrude

cor21e

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Why do I need a solenoid to start the engine?

Why don't you just use a direct connect to the starter with the positive side having a momentary switch on it?
 

dew2

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Re: dumb starter ?s. 25 '72 evinrude

You can BUT the switch has to handle lots more amperage(special hi amp volt switch) the solenoid takes 12V in to activate, then its converted in the solenoid to high ampvolt.
the switch would connect to the batt cables,kinda big switch connecters.
 

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Re: dumb starter ?s. 25 '72 evinrude

Why do I need a solenoid to start the engine?

Why don't you just use a direct connect to the starter with the positive side having a momentary switch on it?

The solenoid IS the momentary switch.......if you can get a 2-300 amp mechanical momentary switch then go for it! :p
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: dumb starter ?s. 25 '72 evinrude

Go ahead and hook it up that way without a solenoid.... then stand back as the wires melt. Don't fight the proven system, wire it properly.
 

cor21e

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Re: dumb starter ?s. 25 '72 evinrude

I am not trying to fight anything. Just wondering why you have to have a solenoid. Thanks for the responses. What gauge wire do I need to Connect my battery positive to the solenoid and battery negative to the ground on the block?
 

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Re: dumb starter ?s. 25 '72 evinrude

6 gauge copper is probably enough.

A little bit of history may help you to understand things. Unless you are as old as I am, you probably don't remember when cars had a starter pedal. Yes, a pedal, located next to the accelerator pedal. It was a heavy duty switch, such as you advocate, combined with a shifting mechanism for engaging the starter gear.

By and by, improvements came along and the starter pedal was replaced with a push button on the dash. That neccesitated a solenoid because the push button was a light duty switch, not capable of carring the full starter current. But it carried the solenoid's coil current just fine. There was another reason for the solenoid: Even if the dash button were capable of carring the full starter current, the battery cable would have to go all the way to the button, then back to the starter motor. That means a long run of heavy battery cable, both expensive and power-robbing.

Not much has changed since those days. We use a solenoid for the same reasons. It would be absurd to run battery cables all the way forward to the start switch in a boat. That would amount to 30 feet or more of expensive battery cable. OK, so you say you just want to put the start button on the motor. You would still need a very heavy duty switch---similar to the one Grandpa tromped on in his old 1930 Chevy.

P.S. I am even older than that--I remember when cars didn't even have starters. You used a crank.
 

boobie

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Re: dumb starter ?s. 25 '72 evinrude

Yeah, and they had the spark advance and throttle right beneath the steering wheel. Grandpa had one of them and I remember them well.
 
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