ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

narvlebenoit

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ED,Achris or bobVT I have the new boxes and stator .Stator was bad because now my battery is chargging motor sounds great but still only turnning 4000 rpm,s is their anything else that could be hold down the RPM,s Thanks guys for all the help Iam getting close to having her running great.If you guys have something else I,ll try it yall save me lots of money.THANKS AGAIN. Narvle. O yea its the 1981 90 h.p. inline six
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

You've checked the maximum timing and all the link/syncs... What boat are you running it on, what speed are you getting at what revs and what is the prop size (pitch, in inches)? I'll plug the numbers into my prop calc and see what shows.

Chris..........
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

The prop is a 18 P ss the boat is a 17 foot starcarft aluminum.The speedo dont work so I would gest about 35 MPH.and 4000 RPM.
 

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Guessing doesn't work, so the first thing to do is get a smaller prop on. 18" is too big for that engine on that boat, unless it use to run to 5000-5500 at WOT. Then we gotta go looking for a problem, but my experience says you should be running around the 15-16" inch mark....

Chris.........
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

Before I changed everthing the switchboxes went out but it use to run at about 5300 RPM with everything the same.changed the switch boxes and went to 3800 rpm.Then ED. said to test stater notice battery was not chargging changed the stater got 4000rpm and battery chargging.so stater was bad.kind of stumped now.But don,t want to give up now THANKS Chris for any help you could give.Narvle
 

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OK... Given that you did get the right revs, let's start looking at would could be wrong. Since you changed the stator and switchboxes have you checked the maximum spark and all the timings and pickups (known here as 'link and sync')? Also, are the carbs opening fully when the hammer is all the way down?

Chris........
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

Carbs are opening fully so I,ll have to try the link@ sync.
 

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You've also gotta make sure all cylinders are firing at speed. If you have a timing lite, clamp the pickup around each wire to check for spark underway. If the cord on the lite is long enough, you could do this by yourself, after checking for firing on the first cyl just stop, move to next cyl, and away you go.

Also, you need to make sure all three carbs are feeding fuel adequately to the motor. Use a spray bottle with fuel/oil mix. When underway, carefully give each carb a good 'spritz' of fuel.

What you'd expect is, if the carb is 'fueling' properly, the engine will slow down due to being too rich from the extra fuel.

If instead, speed picks up, that cyl is lean and the carb likely needs servicing.

Used to do this in the old days by sticking a couple of fingers in front of the carb to vary fuel mixture. A bit harder to do this with the newer carbs that have screens over them.

Needless to say you're gonna need a helper for this one, either to drive the boat or spray into the carbs. Hard to do by yourself!

I can't recall if you've done a compression check since you've had the problem, if not maybe it's time for that too. Just to make sure there's no internal problem.

HTH...........ed
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

Thanks for the info guys.Have a three ..day weekend should have a chance to try those tips.I,ll post back and let yall know what happens. THANKS again Narvle
 

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Ok. today put new plugs in just to see but no luck.tryed spraying the gas in the carbs and it bogs down would only get 3800 RPMs today thats with two of us in the boat.but at 3000RPMs it runs real good go any higher or lower it misses like its not getting the gas or something.it idles good and reves up high with the cold start . checked to make sure all grounds from the stator @switchboxes were tight.
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

Have you checked the maximum spark advance? It should be 20* BTDC at cranking speed. Or that the timing is even advancing?

Chris..........
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

what would stop the timming from advancing.I oder six new used coils from eBay for a good price yesterday.
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

You've been digging around under the flywheel (replacing the stator). The timing is advanced by the timing sensors moving properly. They live under the flywheel.

From this question I assume you've done nothing in the area of checking the timing.... That should have been the first thing you looked at when the problem started.... So, once again, check you have maximum spark advance and the primary pickup point is set correctly. Go through the timing and synchronisation adjustments as set out in your service manual....

And stop throwing parts at this engine in a vain hope that it's a failed part problem.

Chris.........
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

Your right Chirs the whole elecctrical system will be new except for the trigger.Thanks Narvle
 

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Today put the new coils on had two on old set look bad.Bought the new six pack on Ebay for 50.00 bucks good deal i think motor was running great.Was riding for a good while slowed down motor started bogging down took cover off gas pooring out middle carb.What is the problem now hope just carb rebuild.any suggestion would be great THANKS narvle
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

Today put the new coils on had two on old set look bad.Bought the new six pack on Ebay for 50.00 bucks good deal i think motor was running great.Was riding for a good while slowed down motor started bogging down took cover off gas pooring out middle carb.What is the problem now hope just carb rebuild.any suggestion would be great THANKS narvle

Your problem is Mr. Murphey is riding on your shoulder, supervising every detail.

Carb is flooding, sunk float, junk in the needle valve, gasket, ........
Get a kit for it and check it out.

hope it helps
john
 

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Re: ED.-achris New switchBoxes@Stator

Thanks jmartin was hopeing thats all it was.
 
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