Engine dies when shifting to reverse?

[ilove2fixx]

Alpha one gen 2 drive
2003 Bayliner 205

Ok I finally got the drive back on after replacing Oil seal , new yoke shaft surface , 2 ujoints , All bellows what a job!
Now when I shift to reverse she dies ?
She hasn't been ran for almost 2 months and I only let her warm up for 5 min maybe that's why?
She cuts off right away when shifted to reverse ..
Forward she's good ...
Or maybe I need to adjust the shift cable ? This boat has given me about 50 new grey hairs lol

 

[enginesilo]

Alpha one gen 2 drive
2003 Bayliner 205

Ok I finally got the drive back on after replacing Oil seal , new yoke shaft surface , 2 ujoints , All bellows what a job!
Now when I shift to reverse she dies ?
She hasn't been ran for almost 2 months and I only let her warm up for 5 min maybe that's why?
She cuts off right away when shifted to reverse ..
Forward she's good ...
Or maybe I need to adjust the shift cable ? This boat has given me about 50 new grey hairs lol

It sounds like it may be the shift interruption system ( which in theory stalls the engine for a split second to allow you to shift ), or a cable adjustment. Did you install and adjust the cable to the manuals recommended setting?

I just redid my Bellows and shift cable and all, what a job!

 

[ilove2fixx]

Yeah I forgot about the adjustments , I bet it's that ( I hope so ) lol

 

[ilove2fixx]

Ok I did the lower cable adjustment, foward gear , lock prop and hold it .. push cable end down and measure 6 inches .. and put back.. Same thing does Immediately when I even go 1 inch in reverse..

Seems like in reverse it pushes the throttle cable by the carb More than in foward ?

Do I have to do the upper shift cable adjustment to? I didn't remove that at all during repair though ? And boat was working fine before I worked on the rear drive

 

[kenny nunez]

Remove the lower shift cable from the plate. Loosen the slot adjustment and slide to the lower pivot point, Push the cable in to lock it in forward, shift the control forward to full throttle adjust the brass barrel so that the barrel and end of the cable drop on their mounting points and secure the barrel with the cotter pin then shift to full throttle reverse and slide the stud that the cable end is on until the prop is locked in reverse then tighten the anchor stud in the slot and secure with the nut.

 

[achris]

Only part of that adjustment procedure is right. Other parts will get you the wrong adjustment.

Follow the 'My Videos' link in my signature at the bottom and see my shift cable adjustment video to see it done right.

Chris. ...

 

[ilove2fixx]

Only part of that adjustment procedure is right. Other parts will get you the wrong adjustment.

Follow the 'My Videos' link in my signature at the bottom and see my shift cable adjustment video to see it done right.

Chris. ...

I did follow your video for the lower shift cable ..
But i didn't do the upper cable.. You think that's why ??

 

[achris]

If you didn't remove the remote control shift cable, then you didn't follow my video. You can't get the lower shift cable adjustment right without removing the remote cable.

Chris.

 

[ilove2fixx]

If you didn't remove the remote control shift cable, then you didn't follow my video. You can't get the lower shift cable adjustment right without removing the remote cable.

Chris.

Oh ok will do Chris , I didn't know they both had to be done , I thought since it wasn't touched or removed it's good..I was wrong
Hopefully by Gods will , the boat will be all fixed up by tonight ...

 

[ilove2fixx]

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Ok I did it all but my setup is different then in your video .. I looked close even when engine off the shifter interrupter activates when shifted in reverse ? But doesn't move at all when going to foward ?
I can see it go down past half then engine shuts off..
I managed to get it to go into reverse if I go really really slow lol like a 10 seconds shift

What else can it be any other adjustments ? It just feels a little rough at the helm going into reverse and much smoother into foward can the issue be from the helm area ? Or for sure the shift cable ?

Does the curvature or route of cable
Make a difference ??

Mine make a big round circle around one of the exhaust

Here are pics

 

[achris]

Ok I did it all but my setup is different then in your video .. I looked close even when engine off the shifter interrupter activates when shifted in reverse ? But doesn't move at all when going to foward ?

Then you have a cable or drive problem.

I can see it go down past half then engine shuts off..
I managed to get it to go into reverse if I go really really slow lol like a 10 seconds shift

Sounds like a very sticky cable

What else can it be any other adjustments ? It just feels a little rough at the helm going into reverse and much smoother into foward can the issue be from the helm area ? Or for sure the shift cable ?

Even a completely siezed helm control cable will never trip the interrupt switch. Your problem is DEFINITELY the lower shift cable or beyond.

Does the curvature or route of cable
Make a difference ??

Mine make a big round circle around one of the exhaust

Here are pics

Yes, the routing will make a difference.

It should be routed the way it is in the book.

 

[ilove2fixx]

Ok will route that way and check again thanks

 

[ilove2fixx]

Ok I routed it that way still rough to get to go to reverse , it's even rougher now .. when I press the bottom button at the helm when shifting its smoother ?? Why is that ? Maybe the throttle cable is sticky ? Or is that normal when pressing the bottom circle button when shifting ?

 

[kenny nunez]

To check for binding remove the lower shift cable and see if it can be moved in and out with 2 fingers, If it takes more than that change the cable.

 

[ilove2fixx]

that's what I was about to do! I'll see for
Sure if it's the cable

 

[ilove2fixx]

Do I do that Check in foward gear ?

Also can this problem I'm having be from the
Cable jack Brass nut that's on the bellhousimg not screwing in all the way? It stopped half way , about 3-4 threads showing .. I tried to tighten more but it will not go in any further .. can that be the cause ?

 

[achris]

Cable jack brass nut.

You need to explain that a bit more. Our post a picture.

 

[ilove2fixx]

does it go flush or sticks out like in pic I found online ?

If that's the case then I just have 2-3 thread showing if that I thought the threads run flush to the top
Will that cause my issue ? I haven't had the chance to test out the cables disconnected like the other member has suggested..

 

[achris]

Pull the drive. Manually move the shift shaft and make sure it's smooth and easy (not tight). Have someone support the shift slide at the bell housing while you move the control handle. if it still trips the switch, you have a problem with the cable.

Couple of things to check if it's only a problem in reverse.
Not crud in the back of the slider
No crud in the bottom of the slider cavity in the bell housing
The lower shift cable moving anchor point on the shift plate lever isn't too far down the slot (increases cable travel, only in reverse, but can trip the switch if the cable 'bottoms out'.)

Chris..........

 

[ilove2fixx]

I fixed it Guys.. it was that Brass nut for some reason I was now able to screw it down flush..now I can shift to reverse and she doesn't die BUT still a little rough I guess I'll do the adjustments again and what you suggested ..