Epoxy Resin Safety?

nick232

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I have cut a new piece of wood out to replace my rotting sundeck. I want to seal the wood and then put a layer of fiberglass over it for extra strength(with epoxy resin). Does this stuff have a strong odor? Will it be safe for me to do in my basement? Thank you in advance for your advice!
 

reelfishin

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

I'd certainly have far less concerns working indoors with epoxy than with poly resin, but both have pretty strong warnings. I'd ventilate the area well and use a respirator to be safe.

I work with small amounts of epoxy indoors all the time, there's little to no odor, especially compared to poly resin.
 

i386

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

Even though epoxy doesn't have the strong foul small that poly has it's still bad. I've mixed small batches of epoxy resin thinking I could skip the respirator but it still made me lightheaded.
 

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

Thanks for the advice....I'm going to wait for a warm day and do it out in the garage.
 

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

Epoxy will not dwell in your nostrils as long ;).......... once it has flashed and is drying you could probably move the pieces inside if you want.

Remember to wear gloves!!!
 

ondarvr

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

Odor has little to do with how toxic something may be. Polyester has a strong odor and the legal limits in the workplace would be so strong the average person would get a headache, so just because epoxy has less odor doesn't mean its safer. There are actually more workplace issues with epoxy than polyester, that's one reason why it isn't used more in production.
 

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

I don't use epoxy anymore. I had a serious skin reaction when I was working on my last boat a few years ago. The stuff can be nasty...with little warning. Wear gloves, tyvek suit and a respirator.
 

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

I agree with ondarvr (safe bet :).

Poly has more obvious toxicity... it emits styrene gas while curing. That's the bad smell. Obviously, don't breathe too much of it. Poly hardens via a catalyst, so the reaction does give off some gases.

Epoxy combines two sets of chemicals to form the hardened resin, and the reaction itself doesn't give off any actual reactants.. in theory all the chemicals will be consumed in the reaction.

In practice, small amounts of both chemicals remain free in the hardened resin, the air, and the space where the epoxy was used for some time.

The chemicals used for epoxy, specifically the amines in the hardeners, are more toxic than poly or its hardener, and exposure is generally considered cumulative. It adds up over time.

You can develop a sensitivity to it over time that may eventually result in a strong allergic reaction to contact with it. This reaction will make you give up use of the stuff completely. I gather it's rather like having all over eczema.

Any contact with the hardener can trigger it once established, and any contact with the hardener in liquid, powder, particulate, etc form can eventually give it to you. Bare skin on an epoxy coated panel that's already cured can do it.

So in a nutshell, work outside, or if that's not possible, you could do what I do and try to ensure a positive airflow away from living spaces. Also use a respirator and gloves at least. Try to keep the stuff off of your skin.

If you have kids, I wouldn't take the chance of working with it in your basement. Use the garage or go outside.

Erik
 

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

I would say that skin contact with any of the chemicals we use on boats or fiberglass should be avoided.
I use epoxy in small quantities, less then 3 grams per mix, pretty often, and it has to be in a dust free non ventilated area for a perfect result. I don't however linger around the area once I'm done working with it, it's mixed, applied and left to dry mostly unattended.
 

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

I occasionally will mix up small batches or do quick work with just gloves on, but for more extended work or doing things on large projects I usually wear a VOC respirator... the same charcoal filters you'd use with a nasty paint, and I make sure they're fresh.

Wear a coverall to protect your skin if you can.

Also take a shower after... stops the itching from glass bits too :)

Erik
 

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

I don't want to make polyester exposure sound safe, but for the first few decades I was in the industry nobody used gloves or respirators at all, they weren't even in the shop to use if you wanted to. You would have resin on your hands most of the day and you bathed in acetone. This has changed and for a while it became manditory to wear safety gear at all times, now its only required in some areas of the shops.

In 40 years I don't know of anyone that had any health issues that could be directly related to polyester contact (a few had some skin irritation), it was always the drugs and alcohol that did them in. Styrene (which is what you smell in resin) can be detected by your nose at levels far lower than is considered a health concern in the work place, so just because you can smell it doesn't mean you'll have health issues in the future.

After saying that, use whatever method you can to help prevent contact and minimize your exposure, its just common sence.
 

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Re: Epoxy Resin Safety?

LOL - have to chuckle at your comment about washing up with acetone. Back in the day - we would wash up in hydrazine - definately a no-no now days. Guess we didn't know any bettter!
 
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