Etec Oil

[ggray]

My new 25 Etec was delivered with a half tank full of blue oil, and I have run it to the tune of about 12 to 15 gallons of gasoline.

Now that I am ready to add oil to the tank, I see that the XD100 oil that I bought from the dealer is amber.

The dealer had asked me whether I wanted to use the XD100, and I said yes, and I'm quite certain he said he was going to program it accordingly. At any rate the tag at the tank says it is set up for XD100.

So now I'm worried that he filled with the wrong oil for how he programmed the engine.

I have started reading older posts, but thought it best to get the latest scoop: is there any chance that the blue oil in my engine is XD100? If not, I'm either possibly screwed or at best will have to go back to dealer to reprogram to XD100.

 

[steelespike]

Re: Etec Oil

I think you need to consult with your dealer.Obviously he can physically confirm the setting and may be able to comment on the color of the oil.

 

[ggray]

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I will, but I want to inform myself as much as possible first.

 

[steelespike]

Re: Etec Oil

You might be able to contact Evinrude from their web site.
www.evinrude.com

 

[Crosbyman]

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if it is not XD-100 oil and you are running at the xd-100 setting (because of a dealer error) I would get the dealer to confirm this in writing in case waranty issues creep up.

A note to BRP may help in case of any claims

you can run 50/1 setting with TCW-3 oils but other types of oil will not likely meet the requirements of the xd-100 setting.

just MHO

 

[82rude]

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is the oil your going to use amber?if so that's the right stuff.also just because the tank of oil looks blue from the outside it means nothing.ive used xd-100 from day 1 up until recently and when poured in the tank on my motor it looks much darker .you must be ready for your check up soon so take her in and discuss with the dealer.

 

[ggray]

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Well, maybe I'm mistaken. Sure looks blue, but I'll try to get a bit out to be sure.

The oil I'm going to use is amber, and label says it is XD100.

I have emailed Evinrude, but I'd like to hear from you guys, too.

Engine won't be started until this is resolved!

 

[AlTn]

Re: Etec Oil

have you tried posting in Owners Message Board

 

[82rude]

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talk to the dealer .we can guess allday.from day 1 I used xd-100 at the xd-50 setting for extra extra protection.i will take a wild guess if indeed your oil is blue that maybe it is set at xd-50 for the breakin and the tag on the motor is to remind them to set to xd-100 at your checkup .by break in I mean that the comp adds extra oil for the first several hours of running .ive been dithering about going to the xd-100 setting myself .one guy calculated it out with his 90hp etec and it was running at a ratio of 270 to1.thats not the first time ive heard about large ratio,s either.thats the beauty of direct injection and pinpoint oiling.even on the xd-50 setting I use very little oil as compared to a standard 50 to 1 ratio.

 

[82rude]

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edit delete

 

[ggray]

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Well, the tank was filled with blue oil, and the dealer confirmed it was set up for XD100. Said it wouldn't make any difference.

How much did he save on 3 pints of XD100, $3?

Yeah, I can get some agreement about future warranty issues, but since this isn't my primary boat, it won't see a lot of hours. Problems could be years away.

I doubt they would replace my engine now....

 

[Crosbyman]

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why not just dump the blue oil and fill up on xd-100. have your X setting verified

 

[boobie]

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If your motor is set for X-D100 and the oil is blue just dump the oil as said above. And then get in to the dlr to confirm everything.

 

[82rude]

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if 10 years down the road something happens I doubt very much you could place the blame on the small use of the wrong oil.if they or you don't have the 6 year warranty on your motor maybe you could talk to evinrude public relations and get them to give it to you for free as a good faith deal on their part.any way you look at it the dealer screwed up and brp should be aware of it so hopefully they can correct the action and make it right,or at least put your mind at ease.how many hours do you have on the motor?you might be still on the extra-oiling cycle of the first few hours and that alone should help or even negate the wrong oil.at he very least id go to the etc owners group forum and pose your concerns to bluewater bill.

 

[woody66912]

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If your motor is set for X-D100 and the oil is blue just dump the oil as said above. And then get in to the dlr to confirm everything.

boobie is right, But if the dealer had the diag program set up right it should saved a report, when they purged the oil pump they should of saved a second engine report so all you need to do is call them, your report is saved on their laptop. If they didn't save a second one they have to plug in a see what setting is saved.

 

[ggray]

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Yes, I had planned on somehow removing all the blue oil and replacing it with XD100, but not before establishing all the facts with BRP.

Fortunately, I do have the 6 yr warranty (5 1/2 yr left, because I finished building the boat 6 mo after buying the motor), but I have no doubt that a tiny bit of damage now could take a very long time to show itself, particularly if lightly used.

I'm concerned about trusting the dealer at this point as they have a vested interest in the matter. (Shame because they seem to be nice folks.) Woody, is the information regarding the oil setup on my engine stored only on the dealer's computer, or can it be recovered from the motor at any time?

I have run at least 2 tanks of gasoline, and my understanding is that the extra oil period ends after a couple of hours of exceeding something like 3000 rpm, so I expect we are well past that.

I am waiting to hear from Evinrude before I take the next step. I'm also hopeful that I'm worrying unnecessarily, but that will be years before I know.

Thanks to all of you for your thoughts and information!

 

[gradytom]

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xd 30 (?) is red, xd 50 is blue, xd 100 is amber

 

[woody66912]

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It's at both places, your EMM and on their laptop.

 

[ggray]

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Thank you Woody. At least it can be documented.

 

[82rude]

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etec states that you can go up to I believe its 5 hrs without oil in limp-home mode so I believe a few hours with the wrong oil will not be a killer for your motor.by all means pursue a solution with brp if you can but don't over think this or it will drive you to the nut-house.the internals of these motors are a lot tuffer than you think.