Evinrude 60 HP Tolerances

brbinj

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My 60 HP Evinrude 1990 has run meanwhile 500 hours and I wanted to control, if the bearings of the crankshaft (big end bearing of rod and upper bearing near flywheel) are still ok. I opend the the cranking-house from carburator side and reed-box. I can see, that the cranking turns about <br /><br />8 Millimeter <br /><br />measured at the border of the flywheel, without moving the pistons. (Position of pistons, on half the way) That's possible by bearing-clearance in the rod-bearing.<br /><br />May be, this is ok or it's a hint for to much abrasion. Of course I don't see any corrosion and of course I don't see any metal parts inside the cranking house. Overall it looks pretty clean. <br /><br />Perhaps I am to carefull. But I hate a breaking motor, when sea goes high and wind blows into the direction of a cliffy coast-line. <br /> <br />Who knows the allowed tolerances. Perhaps, is this bearing clearance allowed and necessary?<br /> <br />Your answer can help me to avoid disasemble the power-head. My dealer cannot give a better answer but to buy a new four-stroke motor. Up to now my machine worked well. Only the VRO-pump-electronic made some sophisticated trouble. But meanwhile it's ok by good advice in this board.<br /><br />My idea to control the bearings comes from the impression that the flywheel is to warm, if the motor has gone a longer distance. Unfortunately it's not possible to see the upper main-bearings. <br /><br />Thanks for your answer.<br /><br />Gruß Helmut Rüberg
 

wilde1j

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Re: Evinrude 60 HP Tolerances

What is the motor doing to warrant internal inspection? Is it operating properly or not?
 

Hooty

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Re: Evinrude 60 HP Tolerances

I'm not aware of any manufacture's specification concerning bearing wear as you discribded. It's been my experience that rings and pistons wear out long before the bearings do.<br /><br />c/6<br /><br />Hooty
 

ob

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Re: Evinrude 60 HP Tolerances

brbinj,If you are basing your bearing suspicions on flywheel temp feeling too hot I would consider looking into the cooling system of motor.When was the last time the waterpump and thermostat was changed or serviced?
 

G DANE

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Re: Evinrude 60 HP Tolerances

Hi Helmut<br /><br />Where did you mesure the 8 mm ? At the teath on flywheel ? It seems a lot to mee, if pistons are in mid position. Did you take cranckhousing apart - or only remove intake housing ? If cranckcase is apart it is very hard to determine play, as cranck will move when it rests in bearings. Please give a little bit more info. Have you owned the motor from new ? Is it more noisy than one should expect ? As far as I remembet it is possible to touch the rodbearings through intake housing and feel play - there should be second to none.<br /><br />Wiederhören !
 

G DANE

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Helmut<br /><br />Another thought. Remove the sparkplugs and turn flywheel by hand. Can you feel of the magnets touch the stator somewhere ? This would cause a hot flywheel. Upper main bearing play can be felt easily by laying force on flywheel foreward and back listening and feeling for noise/play. 500 Hrs isnt much, many motors run 2500 - 3000 hrs without problems. If the motor has had no troubles with oilmixture, never been submerged and used within recommended rpm, cranckwear is a very unusual thing. I compared to my own 35 and 40 hps, they have a play around 2-4 m.m. when pistons are at tdc, none at mid. Are you sure it isnt the stator movind you can feel.
 

brbinj

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Re: Evinrude 60 HP Tolerances

Thanks to all hooty, jim, dane and ob. I wouldn't have expected such a lot of advice. <br />The motor makes no noises that are suspicious. It runs good and reliant. The cooling system is ok.<br />But all the same I cannot belive, that nearly 8 mm play at the border of flywheel (theeth)) are ok. Thanks for the idea to proof bearing play by feeling with the fingers inside the cranking house. (second to none, that's a clear experience of you, Dane) <br /><br />Dane , you are right, I will try to move the flywheel with power. If there is no play, the top-bearing is ok. <br /><br />As far as I recognize, there is no possibility to see the pistons rings. That would be nice, for the total play could be deminuated by the play of piston rings. <br /><br />Excuse my carefullness, but I go with my boat at Korsikas westside. There are hard winds and mainly directed to a very difficult coast. Motorcrash with hard wind brings very critical situation. <br /><br />Thanks to Dane to the familiar greetings. Thats our language, seldom in the world. <br /><br />Best greetings to all<br />Helmut
 

G DANE

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Re: Evinrude 60 HP Tolerances

Hi again Helmut<br /><br />If it isnt excessively noisy, it doesnt sound like it has much bearing wear. Though these brilliant twostrokes are always some noisy. A good hint - remove one spark plug and feel piston movement with a screwdriver carefully resting against piston top, while turning cranck foreward and back. What you feel as bearing play can easily be the impeller holding back against the movement, it can feel like a lot of play. From what you else explain, it sounds like your motor is good and sound - and hrs isnt high at all - it should have 2000 to go yet, at least. I would prefer a 9.9 hp kicker motor on an auxillary bracket, as rod failure is a seldom reason for motor stop, fuel problems occur more often.
 

G DANE

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Re: Evinrude 60 HP Tolerances

By the way - your motor is a very good model, one of the best at all.
 

ob

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Re: Evinrude 60 HP Tolerances

brbinj,If you suspect the engines flywheel being too warm to the touch after running for a spell I would obtain a thermomelt stik of 163 degree from dealer or other source and check various locations of the engine block and around head covers after engine is up to temp and verify colling system operation and or excessive heat from a problem bearing.Flywheel on a 60 evinrude should not be very warm to touch.
 
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