Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

[duckland23]

Hi guys .

I just bought a evinrude fleetwin That I think is about 1957 or so . The guy told me it wont stay running but I changed the gas and it runs . So the throttle handle dont seem right to me . Its too tight and the gears are not in the right place too . I seen some parts on ebay and am interested in buying the parts that are needed . I may also want to find a good marine mechanic that wont rip me off just fix it . maybe tune up the motor also . I only paid a 125.00 from a guy in milwaukee , WI . I was wondering if I take it to a evinrude dealer will he charge too much or want to work on it at all . So what can I do to fix the throtttle handle . Please help me out . I want to go fishing soon .

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Well, I think the best thing you can do, is pull the tiller handle off and clean all the moving parts thoroughly and relube them with fresh new grease. If there is any plastic bushings that the shafts go through, remove them and scrape out the corrosion buildup in there and re-install the busshings. Corrosion will set in and make the plastic parts swell in around the moving parts, making them hard to turn. All you need is good cleaning and fresh new lubrication. All the moving parts to the magplate will probably need this.

 

[duckland23]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Also The gear at times seems not to turn right or not turn at all . what position should the gears be in for like it to shift and stop and fast and slow idle . I would need to get them on there right so it can start and shift and so forth .How do I begin on this . the next thing is to tune it up . It seems to be ok and will start now after I ran fresh gas in the carb . The guy I bought it from said it would not stay running . Well he was using old gas and I had him dump out the old gas . I know this from having problems with a old lawn mower .But first thing are to start with the tiller handle . But Im in the dark on this . it maybe very easy to do . I need someone to walk me true it for me so I get it right the first time . then on the the next thing .Some pictures on how to reassemble the tiller handle would help me out .

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

The gears only go together correctly one way. There is one tooth on the tiller gear that is larger than the others, and one valley that is larger than the others - they need to be synched. The gears at the throttle rod (where the throttle goes up into the cowling) also need to be synched, again, only one way with the first tooth in the first valley. If that's the case, then the gears are set...

As noted above, if something isn't moving, disassemble, clean and grease...

 

[duckland23]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Some guy also told me that the magno thing may be the problem too . Its also tight on that gear the one that has the long rod going up to the top of the engine . That one is stiff too . I was thinking the throttle handle will spring back after yuo let go of it right , There's a spring in the handle too . That spring is it to snap the throtttle to slow when you let go of it . Right . . I was wondering that the spring is for in the tiller throttle handle .

 

[duckland23]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

@Chinewalker

The gear at the throttle end the half moon one and the one thats conected to the long rod like think going up on the engine . You said they are synched together right . which way do you start with that gear . it has to synch up with the throttle handle , like stop, start , shift . and fast . thats what you mean . which direction to i start with the gear on the motor part . More towards the motor or closer to the handle . if you can snap a picture for me so I can see which position is the stop on the gear . I can then set it up the same way .

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Some guy also told me that the magno thing may be the problem too . Its also tight on that gear the one that has the long rod going up to the top of the engine . That one is stiff too . I was thinking the throttle handle will spring back after yuo let go of it right , There's a spring in the handle too . That spring is it to snap the throtttle to slow when you let go of it . Right . . I was wondering that the spring is for in the tiller throttle handle .

The spring inside the handle is for friction, not a return.

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

@Chinewalker

The gear at the throttle end the half moon one and the one thats conected to the long rod like think going up on the engine . You said they are synched together right . which way do you start with that gear . it has to synch up with the throttle handle , like stop, start , shift . and fast . thats what you mean . which direction to i start with the gear on the motor part . More towards the motor or closer to the handle . if you can snap a picture for me so I can see which position is the stop on the gear . I can then set it up the same way .

Not sure what you mean. The gears don't run full circle. First tooth goes in the first valley. Doesn't matter which side you start on.

Also, don't put too much effort into trying to line up the SLOW-START-FAST stuff. It's a general positioning and 55 years of wear and tear can make things sloppy enough that one guy's START position might be another guy's SLOW....

 

[duckland23]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

@1947Zephyr

The handle is good , I took it apart and am putting the gears back in there proper place . I figured that out fine . But its up in the magneto plate it hard to turn . All the brass contections are fine . what would cause the maneto plate to be tight . Would the coils not being alined proper do this . I seen that theres a clearance to folow . I seen it some where on the web but cant remember where . The picture shows flush with the cast metal housing . I would think it could cause a problem .

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Did you pull the magplate and clean and re-lube it?

 

[duckland23]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

No Im afraid to do that . I dont want to me out of time . But I bet it needs re-lube , I dont know what the other man did to it before me . I know how to use a puller to pull the flywheel of the engine . I also read that the points gap is on top of the flywheel . But I bet its a good idea to pull it off and clean it , and replace the popints if needed too . It may not be needed im unsure .How do you get the cover for my engine off as well . You need that off to pull the flywheel .

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Taking the flywheel and mag plate off won't do a thing to the timing...

To remove the cover, remove the choke knob where it goes through the face. If the rubber strap from the cowling to recoil is present, unhook that, too. Then jiggle, twist, stand on your head, whatever it takes to snake it off and around the shift handle. Sometimes helps to have the shift in reverse...

You will need a harmonic balancer type puller to remove the flywheel, with three grade 8, 1/4-inch by 20 tpi bolts. DO NOT use a jaw or claw type puller on the outside of the flywheel. Lots of posts on here about dealing with the ignition if you want to get into messing with points, etc.

 

[chum1]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

you may want to try spraying wd 40 up in there first to dissolve some of that old grease paste first, that may be all it needs.

 

[duckland23]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Im not spraying wd-40 up there , I'll take it apart and regrease it the right way . But anyway I fixed the handle part no parts needed . I of the two teeth are broken off but It feels and turns ok just it a little tight , but I think its under the magneto Plate that not been greased in along time .I may as well buy new points and consenser for it ,if it need new coils Ill buy them too . But Im unsure how to set the points on them and make sure the timming it set right . Is there a timming gage thing . I thought that there was a little metal jig you place over the camshaft so you can see the proper setting . Please help me set the points the right way . Im told that the gap setting is punched in the top of the flywheel . Also what size is the fuel line on there and what type do I use , Im told that some of the rubber one will get eaten away from the enthenol in the gas . I think i can find regular gas in wisconsin . Im told that air ports have lead gas . But will they sell it to me to use in my outboard , but federal law states that I can use it for that just not for on road use .

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Set points at .020" with the fiber rider of the point rocker aligned with the crankshaft keyway (highest point of the cam). Spin the crankshaft 180 and set the other side the same way and you're done...

 

[duckland23]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

@Chinewalker

Ill try it this weekend or on monday . I went to napa to order the parts 58.00 for the points and consenser plus carb kit and plugs Champion j6c . But the napa guy had to cross refrence them . I dont understand why but he did .

 

[Cap'n Chaos]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

You don't need to run leaded gas. Today's gas with ethanol will (over time) dissolve the inside of the fuel lines and clog up your carb. Replace all the fuel lines. Shouldn't be but about $10 so for all of them on the motor.

I use a little SeaFoam in my premix to help maintain carbon buildup... I also use synthetic TCW3 oil. It smokes less and makes the tree huggers happier.

$58.00 for points, condensers, plugs and carb kit sounds about right. (Did you get a new needle/seat and float with the kit?) Make sure your plugs are Champion brand... these motors like Champion plugs.

Best of luck with your motor! I don't have one quite as "old" as yours... but I hope to have one from the 50's.... one day.

 

[chum1]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

sounds good, If there is a local airport just call them and they should be able to help albeit 5 gal's of gas is a hassle to deal with, expect to pay around $6.00 a gal., avgas is the best gas to use when storing an outboard for the winter and probably as long as 5 years or more for that matter. The fuel hose line you can can get anywhere, if you pull the flywheel make sure you torque the nut when reinstalling or your flywheel and crank will be ruined.

 

[duckland23]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Whats the torque for the flywheel in foot pounds not inch pounds . Thats the way the service manual will list it in inch pounds . But I am told you can convert the inch pounds to ft pounds .

 

[chum1]

Re: Evinrude Fleetwin throttle handle problems

Whats the torque for the flywheel in foot pounds not inch pounds . Thats the way the service manual will list it in inch pounds . But I am told you can convert the inch pounds to ft pounds .

divide your inch lb figure by "12" that will give you foot lbs