Exactly what does TC-W3 mean?

ob

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Re: Exactly what does TC-W3 mean?

John , It stands for two cycle water cooled and the number 3 is the most recent blend with newer additives.Here's some reading. web page
 

12Footer

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Re: Exactly what does TC-W3 mean?

NICE LINK!!<br />I knew about that paper,because I used to have a copy of the text on my HD.<br />Until I lost my HD. I looked hard, but couldn't find it on the web anywhere.
 

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Re: Exactly what does TC-W3 mean?

12 Footer<br />Love slogan you provided, thanks for sharing.
 

John Reynolds

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Re: Exactly what does TC-W3 mean?

Thanks OB that was a good article.<br /> I can assume then that an oil that will work well in a water-cooled engine will also perform great in an air-cooled engine with it's higher temperatures which will tend to burn off more deposits?
 

ob

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Re: Exactly what does TC-W3 mean?

That's correct John.Just don't do the transverse and use the cheap non TCW3 in your watercooled outboard.
 

Trent

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Two stroke gasoline engine oils are formulated with the following additives: <br />* Detergents to neutralize acids formed during combustion<br />* Dispersants to hold contaminants in suspension and off the metal surfaces of the engine<br />* Anti-wear agents<br />* Rust and corrosion inhibitors<br />* Polymers to reduce exhaust smoke and exhaust system blocking. <br /><br />Major performance requirements of two-stroke gasoline engine oils include:<br />* Protection against ring sticking<br />* Protection against exhaust system blockage<br />* Protection against piston and cylinder scuffing<br />* Protection against deposit-induced pre-ignition<br />* Rust prevention<br />* Biodegradability <br /><br />There are two designations that a two-stroke gasoline engine oil may be classified as:<br />* American Petroleum Institute "TC"<br />* National Marine Manufacturers Association "TC-W3" <br /><br />TC-W3 quality oils are preferred by most outboard engines and personal watercraft. Some personal watercraft manufacturers, (Bombardier for example), specify not to use TC-W3 quality oils. <br /><br />TC (low-ash) and TC-W3 (ash-less) oils primary difference is in ash content. Ash content is the non-combustible portion of a lubricating oil. Many of the additives found in fully-formulated lubricating oils contain metallic, non-combustible derivatives, such as barium, calcium and magnesium. Ash-less oils must be formulated without metallic or noncombustible additives. <br /><br />In North America, four-stroke gasoline and two- and four-stroke diesel engine oils are all classified by the American Petroleum Institute. The engine manufacturers will specify the API service category and Society of Automotive Engineers viscosity grade that they prefer based on the ambient operating temperatures and the quality of oil required for the design of the engine. <br /><br />Four-stroke gasoline engine API service categories always begin with the letter S. <br />Diesel engines begin with the letter C. <br />These letters stand for "Service" and "Commercial" sometimes refereed to as... "Spark Ignition" and "Compression Ignition". <br /><br />There are five current API service categories:<br />* API SJ is for four-stroke gasoline engines.<br />* API CF-2 is for two-stroke diesel engines.<br />* API CF, CF-4 and CG4 for four-stroke diesel engines. <br /><br />The requirements of four-stroke gasoline and two- and four-stroke diesel engines, motor oils are formulated with the following additives:<br />* Anti-foaming agents<br />* Oxidation inhibitors<br />* Corrosion inhibitors<br />* Rust inhibitors<br />* Anti-wear and anti-scuff agents<br />* Detergents to neutralize acids formed during combustion<br />* Dispersants to hold contaminants in suspension and off the metal surfaces of the engine<br />* Polymers to improve the ability of the oil performance in cold temperatures and over a wide range of temperatures. <br /><br />There are three API service categories for gear oils:<br />* API GL-1<br />* API GL-4<br />* API GL-5 <br />Most outboard manufacturers recommend API GL5 gear oils for their lower units. API GL-5 gear lubricants are for both mechanical shift units calling for Type B gear oil and electrical shift mechanisms calling for Type C gear oil. (only the viscosity value will be different for each application) <br /><br />Transmission fluid needs to have excellent oxidative stability and anti-foaming characteristics, and must be able to perform over a wide range of temperatures. Dexron(r) III/Mercon(r) formulations meet the requirements of Type A, Dexron(r), Dexron(r) II, Dexron(r) II-E and Mercon(r) ATFs. Current Dexron(r) III/Mercon(r) formulations are also generally suitable as Allison C2, C3 or C4 type fluids. <br /><br />On the other hand,Type F ATF has a different frictional property than Dexron(r) III/Mercon(r). (Note: some transmissions use regular motor oil) <br /><br />Always refer to the manual for exact specifications but as you can see, standards exist to create a uniform atmosphere for compatibility in lubricants. This should make it easier to choose one brand over another. Also note that every "generic brand" lubricant has to comply with the same standards as the "brand name" lubricant to carry a specific classification. (and there are only a hand-full or so of lubricant manufacturers as compared to the numerous "brand names" they manufacture.)
 

John Reynolds

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Re: Exactly what does TC-W3 mean?

I just boight a quart of motor oil that was API SL; it's up to "L" now
 

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Re: Exactly what does TC-W3 mean?

Thanks so much for the info !!!<br /><br />Boy this site is GREAT ! My dad and I were just discussing this same topic last evening. I'm currently running a '61 Evinrude Lark III 40 hp and have been running a 24:1 mix but it smokes A LOT. I have been told that I can run OMC TC-W3 oil at a 50:1 mix and it will work fine. I was just going to start trying to find out what the TC-W3 stood for and then I happened on this post. It's just what I was looking for ! I think I'm going to lean my mix out to 50:1 and I'm sure that will help quite a bit with the smoking and the "slick" that I've been leaving behind everywhere I go. :( <br />I was going to try to get into a shiny new 4-stroke this year but it's just not in the budget. Besides, I really like the looks of this old Lark ! I get lots of lookers and comments on it when I'm at the ramp. <br /><br />Thanks again for all the info you folks provide !
 
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