Explorer towing, what’s your thoughts?

Oldpos

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I have a 2001 parti kraft 24ft pontoon with the 3.0 I/O. And I have a 2018 Ford Explorer 4x4 with the 3.5 non turbo. Tow rating 5000 lbs. the lake is 55 minutes from me, all interstate driving. I have a newer f150 Alain that I have towed the boat with this far but we like to go camping and take our boat too. I can use the truck for the boat ramp but what do y’all think about using the explorer to get the boat to the camp ground? Anyone have experience towing with newer explorers? I would like some feedback before going and buying a hitch and wiring. Thanks
 

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You also need to look at payload capacity for the Explorer. That would include the weight of everything in the truck (including driver and passengers), luggage/camping gear, and tongue weight of the trailer. I think you'd run out of payload capacity sooner in the Explorer than the F150. (I'm guessing 1500 to 1700 payload for an Explorer.)

For a trailered pontoon boat on the highway, I'd also be thinking about the weight of the tow vehicle. A pontoon on a trailer is about like a sailboat, so the heavier the two vehicle, the better, I would think.
 

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You know that boat pulls like a parachute. I think the PU is likely better equipped to handle that situation. At minimum, if the longer trips are going to happen frequently (several times a season), I would be looking at installing a trans cooler.
 

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I have a 2019 Starcraft 20 foot toon with 115 merc on back ... the boat is 1800 lbs, the motor is 375, I have a tandom trailer, it's bout 1000 llbs.... towed it 6 times last summer, bout 1.5 hours one way with my Honda Pilot rated at 5000lbs towing. zero issues... it's slow.. yea.. but can handle it fine
 
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I have a 2019 Starcraft 20 foot toon with 115 merc on back ... the boat is 1800 lbs, the motor is 375, I have a tandom trailer, it's bout 1000 llbs.... towed it 6 times last summer, bout 1.5 hours one way with my Honda Pilot rated at 5000lbs towing. zero issues... it's slow.. yea.. but can handle it fine

Did you try slamming on the brakes at 70mph with that 20ft pontoon behind the Pilot to test out how it reacts to emergency braking situations?
 

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Did you try slamming on the brakes at 70mph with that 20ft pontoon behind the Pilot to test out how it reacts to emergency braking situations?

If the trailer has brakes then there should be no issues with stopping.
Do you ever slam on the brakes at 70 without a trailer to test your vehicle?
 
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Most vehicles are tested by the manufacturer at highway speeds (without a trailer). You're making an irrelevant argument.

The point is whether these "in-between" vehicles are safe for towing bigger loads. The problem for the general public, is that people generally assume that if the load is within the manufacturer's towing capacity, that it is safe. They are separate issues. A deer running across the interstate or dodging an accident in front of you are real world situations that more people should think about instead of just 'can it pull it down the street.' The vehicle's weight compared to the trailer weight, size of the brakes, and many other factors determine relative safety.

Just this winter I this exact scenario. An SUV was pulling a 4-place snowmobile trailer around 70mph. I was about 1/4 mile behind when a linx ran out into the road. The driver swerved and the trailer pushed the SUV off the road and jackknifed. Everyone was okay but I would say that was certainly a case where the vehicle was capable of pulling the load in a straight line but not safely in an emergency situation.
 

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I agree it's a good idea to mention braking. Most folks, when asking if they can tow X behind Y, are thinking primarily of the whether the tow vehicle has enough power to pull the load. Stopping ability is probably more important, though, in terms of safety. Lots of boat trailers don't have brakes, so it's a valid thing to point out.
 

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I really doubt the total weight or the hitch weight in regards to payload is an issue. It's how much sway you might get when its windy. Just slow down when windy and you should be fine. Make sure the trailer brakes work.
 

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Just this winter I this exact scenario. An SUV was pulling a 4-place snowmobile trailer around 70mph. I was about 1/4 mile behind when a linx ran out into the road. The driver swerved and the trailer pushed the SUV off the road and jackknifed. Everyone was okay but I would say that was certainly a case where the vehicle was capable of pulling the load in a straight line but not safely in an emergency situation.

Trailering is 5% vehicle, 95% driver. Your situation above proves that perfectly, as the exact same very likely would have happened with a larger vehicle. If you swerve in an emergency scenario with a trailer, the trailer is going to whip around. Snowmobile trailers in particular are evil little things to pull, I hate pulling my 2 place enclosed, would MUCH rather tow a boat around! An experienced driver would have been going slower, and there would be a dead linx.

I've towed WAY beyond vehicle recommendations, I had 4000 lb's+ behind a sports car. I've had somewhere double the rated load behind a 1/2 ton. But I like to think I was able to do it safely, I also grew up on a farm and have towed every type of load possible, with everything from a law tractor to a semi. When I see someone going down the road, I'm just as worried about the large truck with a pontoon as I am with a crossover and a tinny behind it.


Anyway, OP. I personally wouldn't, and not for the safety reasons. Don't know about your specific year, but Explorers have never been known for having a strong transmission. Pontoons pull hard all the time, lots of drag, and that is extremely hard on a transmission. Its easier to pull a heavy aerodynamic load than a parachute. The good news is that Explorer transmissions are relatively cheap, as there is a decent supply for cores out there!
 

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Towing is the main reason I went with a Durango 8 cyl instead of the Explorer ..
 
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Trailering is 5% vehicle, 95% driver.
I might argue the percentages a little bit, but pretty much agree with everything that you said. Unfortunately most drivers are driving too fast, too close, and too many other things to be safe.

We all take on extra responsibilities when we tow something. We are less maneuverable, unable to stop as quick, and pack a lot more punch in a collision due to the extra weight.
 

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Why would I test slam break towing my rig at 70mph? for starters I dont go that fast... secondly, the new tandem trailer has surge breaks on all (4) wheels. trailer capable of handling over 2x load I'm hauling.. i did that intentionally to have zero issues with load..... i have had zero issues, the surge breaks work exceptionally well
 

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Kinda curious how many people on here have actually towed a pontoon boat. Probably one of lightest boats there are. Compared to towing a travel trailer, a pontoon boat is nothing as far as catching side winds. The OP would have zero problems towing one.
 
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