Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

JerseyJim

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I took the boat out again today on a local lake to try and get this alarm to come on again (see the previous thread here). After about 4 minutes of idling out of the marina, I throttled up to about 3300 rpm (22mph), and the alarm came back. I imeediately throttled back, and the alarm stayed. I opened the cowling to check the engine block, and it was about 140degrees as I suspected, and water was coming out of the telltale just fine, and was also approx 140degrees. I shut the engine down, tried changing the batteries to see if it was a loose ground in the switch (one of my recommendations by others) and when i re-started the alarm came back. I shut down again, pulled the main connector to the control box for about 10 seconds, and plugged it back in. Restarted, the alarm came back. About 30 seconds later, the alarm went away, and didnt come back all afternoon. <br /><br />I ran the engine at 3000-4000 rpm all afternoon and the alarm NEVER came back. I ran at idle, WOT, mid rpm, etc. The engine runs like an absolute top. Previously when the alarm had gone off, all my gauges went down, almost like a breaker blew. <br /><br />i'm starting to think this is a faulty overheat alarm. I cant find anything in my clymer regarding overheat alarms, sensors, etc etc. Does anyone think this could be the sensor? I thought it was the control box previously, and I stiull havent ruled it out... I'm going to pick up a heat crayon at napa just to make absolute sure the block isnt overheating - i dont think it is.
 

jim dozier

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

The sensor works by grounding a circuit when it activates and sets off the alarm. Because you lost your gauges at the same time I would suspect that a bad wire or connection is grounding when its not supposed to setting off the alarm and shorting out your gauges and who knows what else. Check your wiring under the dash and back to the engine (easier said than done).
 

JerseyJim

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

i never lost my guages yesterday however....the alarm went off, went away, and never returned...
 

hammer250v8

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

evinrude's have temp switches in the head's. i'm replacing mine now. i have the same erratic alarm problem. it comes and goes. dealer checked it out and found no overheating/bad thermostat problem. maybe your merc has the same problem?...james
 

JerseyJim

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

it doesnt do it on the muffs... if it was a REAL overheat alarm i would think the engine would have blown to kingdom come, considering i ran it for 2 hours after the alarm went off...
 

steve forsythe

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

Hey Jim,.... my 2000 merc (200hp) "ran like a top" when it ran....but went through 3 powerheads! Find the problem. Dont assume that if when it runs, it runs well, there must not be a major problem.
 

JerseyJim

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

Ok I got a non contact infrared thermometer from NAPA and took the boat out today.<br /><br />The same symptoms happened as last time - after some running (this time about 20 minutes), the alarm came on. I throttled back, popped open the cowling, and this time I was armed with the laser thermometer.<br /><br />From the back of the flywheel, 129deg F<br />From the tops of the cylinder heads, 140deg F<br />The Tell Tale Water, 129deg F<br /><br />I got no readings over 145deg F other than the exhaust .... <br /><br />I still don't get it!!<br /><br />THe alarm comes on when first running, and then shuts off after 30 seconds, and does not return!!<br />I don't think it's a stuck thermostat, because under throttle water comes out the telltale like a firehose....
 

jim dozier

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

Just like anything else sensors can be bad. Perhaps yours is overly sensistive. If they're not to expensive maybe try replacing since you've confirmed the engine isn't overheating.
 

JerseyJim

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

does anyone know where this sensor is? I made the fatal mistake of buying a clymer shop manual, and I'm pretty sure this thing was written by the guy who draws Family Circus....<br /><br />It's fairly useless to me, as very little pagewise is spend on the big V6 outboards...<br /><br />i just ordered the seloc...
 

jim dozier

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

I don't know that particular engine but you can probably find it. It would be on the cylinder head with 2 wires coming out of it one of them probably black. To verify you have found it ground the black wire and the alarm should go off.
 

grandx

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

I think the over heat sensor has a tan/blue lead attached to a 1/2" cylindrical block of aluminum held in place by a bracket and a single bolt at the top of one of the cylinder heads... Can't remember if its port or starboard, the other side (head) is identical, but this is the temp sending unit and does not have the tan/blue lead. Hope this helps...
 

JerseyJim

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Re: Faulty overheat alarm on 85 200hp merc?

I think I got a little closer .. the lead to the sensor is badly corroded and some of the wire is showing... I have ordered a new sensor and sender...this should fix the problem..
 
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