FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

ezbtr

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So my lender says : "If you go with 20% down you’ll get rid of FHA and do conventional, rate will be slightly higher but you’ll have no mortgage insurance. "
So my rate will be higher with a lower monthly mortgage payment? My credit score was 650 last I checked a few months ago. And 20% down would leave very little in savings for repairs, love having a nice "uh oh" egg :>) etc
Thanks guys!!
 

mscher

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

I would think the conventional should have had a lower interest, but.

20% down means the house is 20% paid for, which means that if you had to sell it for 80%, you could sell the house and be clear. Otherwise, you might be "upside down"

PMI might cost you $100/mo or more.

100% loans is what got everyone in trouble, the last time.
 

ezbtr

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

I would think the conventional should have had a lower interest, but.

20% down means the house is 20% paid for, which means that if you had to sell it for 80%, you could sell the house and be clear. Otherwise, you might be "upside down"

PMI might cost you $100/mo or more.

100% loans is what got everyone in trouble, the last time.

So what would you suggest? I havent owned in 14 yrs
 

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

It depends on what interest rates are for a FICO of 650. I think the really low rates kick in @ 750 points. Your broker can easily figure it out the least expensive way for you to go.

For someone that's going to own a house in the future, now's the time to buy. Prices hopefully couldn't go much lower, and interest rates have not been this low since WWII. Another option is to finance it for 15 years--and get it paid quickly.

If relatively high interest rates are an issue, back off on buying right now. I suggest studying online to what it takes to quickly get your FICO score up to the 750's or above. It might be easier and quicker than you think. Suze Orman addresses this subject. Clark Howard and Elise Glink also have books and web sites that possibly address these issues. Elise Glink (out of Chicago) is especially slanted toward real estate advise.

When it's said and done with, there's going to be a bunch of money made on houses 10 or 15 years for now--especially for someone that bought a quick sale or a foreclosure. Florida's a bargain for people that want out of the cold.
 

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

I'm sure rules are different in each state but here in Texas 20% down also allows you to pay your own taxes and home owners insurance which saves you some $$ instead of having it tied in with your mortgage. I also got a 30 year with no early pay penalty so most of the time i pay on it like a 15 year. If money is tight, I'm self employed, i can pay the 30 yr amount and all is well.

The right broker makes all the difference. Most try to steer you toward whatever the are currently working most with. I was checking with 3 different ones when i did mine. Was getting 3 very different results from each. They can also tell you how much your credit score will or will not affect your rate for a given loan type. You definitely want to avoid mortgage insurance, its a rip off. Its to protect the lender. Rates are at all time lows.... Happy hunting!
 

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

....what sort of house prices are you dealing with Heinz? $200's? $100's?
California is a desireable place to live (I assume?)....but I know it's economy is/was on the rocks...is that changing? and is it changing house prices?
I don't think they can go much lower....but who knows?
BP:)
 

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

When I lived in Concord in 1980 houses were way overpriced IMO.
 

ezbtr

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

Prices are 180-200K, I'd love to pay off in 15 years, houses are still dropping in Contra Costa county, where I live.
 

ezbtr

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

When I lived in Concord in 1980 houses were way overpriced IMO.

They were the last 12 years! Places Im lookin at (180-200K) were selling for at least double 5-7 yrs ago.
 

korygrandy

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

They were the last 12 years! Places Im lookin at (180-200K) were selling for at least double 5-7 yrs ago.

Similar story around the country, the same home I bought for 200k this past spring sold in 2006 for $380k. Needless to say they foreclosed which (2 owners later allowed me to get a decent deal on a home that is now priced appropriately IMO).

How long do you plan on being on the planet? I think when purchasing a house in your older age that is something to consider. I went FHA 30yr 10% down but I am planning on being in this home for a while. I am in no hurry to pay it off, but I am still young. I also didnt max out what I could afford though, I ran the calculators and read the advice and got a real sense of how much I was comfortable paying, if you arent comfortable with your payment your just going to stress yourself out.

Find a good mortgage broker, hell find 3, I did I just didnt tell them about eachother until the end. Doing this I learned that some brokers are willing to bend on there fee's and some just dont have that luxury, you will find the ones who can negotiate the fee's by dropping them a copy of there competitors Good Faith Estimate.

Also, remember the real estate agent is there to assist you in negotiating the deal and are very good at not giving there opinions and opening doors for you. They were completely unhelpful when it came to anything other than that in my experience. Also, find an agent that KNOWS the area you are looking in, otherwise you will waste a lot of time if they aren't familiar.

Of all the people involved in the process, you are the one that needs to be the most competent throughout it. Know what your signing and if anything doesnt make sense, ask your mortgage broker (lender/agent). In my experience they were more than happy to answer even the dumbest questions.

With FHA you have to pay PMI, but if you can afford conventional and your credit is up to snuff, you wouldnt be asking the forum guys. You would have a guy for that :wink:

Another experience I had, I had an independent broker, and was also working with another independent broker, USBank and WellsFargo directly, my loan was denied by wells fargo for reasons unknwon to me. Eventually I settled with an indpendent broker who was willing to work with the fees...and low and behold, guess who ended up with my mortgage through the broker...take a guess...you got it, WellsFargo. Apparerntly if an independent broker pushes the paperwork, it eliminates some of the risk that wells Fargo wasnt willing to take...so my only assumption is that initially when WF denied my loan, they were not willing to risk sending it to underwriting hahaha.

I don't want this to get political, but long story short even though I was denied by a bank, they ultimately ended up with the loan even though they didnt do the initial processing.

I hope some of this info helps! Happy house / Loan hunting. IM me if you have any other questions. I learned a lot through the process.
 

bruceb58

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Re: FHA or conventional home loan w/ 20% down?

Of course the advantage of the higher interest rate is that you can deduct the interest. I don't believe you can deduct PMI but I may be wrong.

I just refinanced a couple months ago and got a 30 year for 4.00% with no fees. In fact I got around $4k back in rebates which I applied to my taxes. My score is 800 and loan to value was around 50% so everything was pretty easy for me. I went through a mortgage broker who is willing to share his fee which is why I got the rebate.
 
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