Fiberglass or Aluminum??

mj05

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So what are the strengths and weaknesses? Let's just say as a baseline... 18-20 foot length, used for family pleasure.... tube,knee board, ski, cruising around..... pretty much the average for a runabout. Maybe some fishing but not purpose built. Not sure if it makes a difference between closed/ open bow. Between 100 and say.... 180 hp. Fuel economy? Speed? People/weight capacity? Lifespan?(quality/durability?) Hopefully I gave enough parameters to get the thread going. Both facts and opinions welcome!
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

my aluminum 1957 LoneStar is still solid- not alot of fiberglass boats from 1957 still around. but fiberglass generally rides & takes waves better. An Aluminum boat that size goes over waves instead of thru them... a rough ride.
Wind and waves are better in an Fiberglass boat.
Aluminum is easy to tow and can have a smaller engine for the same speed.
Saves on gas.
 

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as a general rule in the under 20 foot category, aluminum boats are fishing boats first, and crossover to other activities second. Fiberglass boats are generally more geared towards family/cruising, and fishing is a distant second.

In other words, don't just consider the hull material. If you aren't going to be spending much time fishing, the extra stuff on a aluminum fishing boat isn't going to do much good for you, and you will be missing out on quite a few features on a fiberglass boat that you might want.
 

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Ya, there really aren't alot of pleasure boats in aluminum for whatever reason, aluminum boats never rot though which is a concern with glass.

Water will get into the the bopat and rot the stringers and transom and it is a major rebuild where aluminum you may have to change the transom wood.

Bass pro shops has a line of aluminum baots and I almost remeber one of them as being a pleasure boat so maybe check there.
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

I can see uses for both.

For my main boat, I prefer glass. It is cooler in the hot southern sun and can be easily repaired. We tend to have a lot of stumps, etc. in the water here and hitting them is not unusual.

In fact, I just finished repairing a pretty good sized crack in the bow of my boat. I hit a mostly submerged log at night. I wasn't going very fast, but it it dead on to the end, which pretty much acted like a battering ram. The same hit in an alluminum boat of typical gauge, would have bent it and might have split a seam - especially if it were a rivited boat.

If you do buy a tinny, I would stay away from dark colors that will absorb heat. They can get very uncomfortable, if you sit on or touch an aluminum surface. There are still a lot of "duck boat drab" (camo green) tinnys being sold around here, but a lot of my friends paint their boats white, or some other light color.



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Check out the Sea Ark Boats web site and look at their model called "The Big Easy", lots of room, durable, much lighter than a fiberglass boat of similar size. There's some nice deck boats in aluminum as well as glass that might be attractive for you. I run an 18' aluminum jon boat and it's fine, but for rough water it just doesn't ride as smooth as glass, but we're on mostly lakes and rivers, so it's no big deal. Nice thing about the aluminum, you can bang it around a lot more without having to worry about messing it up. Just a spray can of O.D. Green paint and you're good to go!
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

I enjoy being able to smack into stuff with little consequence in my aluminum boats :D
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

Aluminum boats are noisier than FG, and are succeptable to galvanic corrosion in Saltwater. They are also lighter and pretty much maintenance free.

In rough conditions (Bay, ocean, large lakes), heavier boats ride better. FG is the preferred material, IMHO. For smaller lakes an smaller boats, aluminum is hard to beat.


BTW - FG are usually a bit better if you hit something, as the damage is usually confined to a smaller area. However, aluminum is more resistant to minor scrapes and dings.
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

as a general rule in the under 20 foot category, aluminum boats are fishing boats first, and crossover to other activities second. Fiberglass boats are generally more geared towards family/cruising, and fishing is a distant second.

In other words, don't just consider the hull material. If you aren't going to be spending much time fishing, the extra stuff on a aluminum fishing boat isn't going to do much good for you, and you will be missing out on quite a few features on a fiberglass boat that you might want.

What about starcraft? How late did they make the SS and Holiday? Even though people fish out of them and turn them into fishing boats, they seem to have been originally marketed as family runabouts. Thoughts?
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

I have fiberglass boat now and previously had aluminum boats. As said the fiberglass boats tend to be geared more toward pleasure, with the big exception of bass boats. The aluminum boats, I would not necessarily say are only fishing, especially when you consider the older aluminum boats. I had a Starcraft Supersport aluminum and it was an aluminum bowrider like many fiberglass boats and was not set up at all for fishing when i got it. Aluminum boats manufactured in more recent times do tend to be more geared toward fishing, but many still could easily be used as pleasure boats with the simple addition of bow cushions. Some things to consider are features that may not be available. You just don't see to many sun decks on aluminum boats. The aluminum boats tend to be outboards which can be a pain for hauling a big tube around (You can hang a tube off the back of an I/O easily). Lounge seating is not as common in an aluminum boat and they tend to have pedestal seats.

As for Fuel economy? Speed? People/weight capacity? Lifespan?(quality/durability?) here is how I see it:

Fuel economy - Aluminum would probably win here comparing apples to apples, but consider that aluminum is generally outboard fiberglass you may have I/O and it becomes less clear. Now you hae to consider if the oputboard is a newer efficient one, a 4 stroke, or an older 2-stroke. It becomes less clear

Speed - Horsepower for horsepower, the aluminum boat will be lighter, and should therefore have better speed, but again, the aluminum boats are limited in hull design because of having to shape aluminum to form the hull. Not so in f-glass. I would say this pne favors aluminum if talking the same horsepower.

People/weight capacity - I really don't see much difference in this regard on a length for length basis. My 16 foot aluminum was rated for 6 people and so is my 16 foot fiberglass.

Lifespan/quality/durability - These kind of go together and it all depends on how the boat is cared for. The aluminum boats seem to be able to survive more misuse and neglect, but if you take care of any kind of boat it should last indefinitely. Both styles can be damaged, and repaired. It really depends on the specific damage as to which is easier to repair. A hole in the hull of an aluminum boat can usually be repaired totally from the outside unless the substructure of the boat is damaged. A hole in a fiberglass baot might require accessing the inside of the hull which can be a pain and costly. But hey, that's what insurance is for right?

You really need to look at how you want to use the boat and find one that fits. You didn't say if you were looking for new, used, or what age boat. You also didn't say if you wanted turn-key or a project, but making some assumptions for the purposes that you describe, I would probably tend to lean more toward a turn-key fiberglass I/O boat simply because there are so many with the features that would be desireable for your stated purpose. That said, I have the same uses, but with a larger portion devoted to fishing and the aluminum Starcraft I had worked very well for us. I personally wish I would have fixed up the old Starcraft rather than making the switch to Fiberglass. I have a nice boat, but still prefer the aluminum boats. Since you stated that the fishing would be limited, get a pleasure boat. You can fish off of anything, its just easier on a purpose built fishing boat.
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

Another 2 cents.

Glass rides better in rough water, Aluminum is probably cheaper and easier to maintain over it's lifespan. The more it weighs the lower the fuel economy given the same size drives. Same goes for towing if you need to do alot of that. Which will hold it's resale value better???

My boating is mainly fishing therefore I use aluminum though if I were to be looking for a cruiser or had the ability to keep it moored it would be glass.
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

What about starcraft? How late did they make the SS and Holiday? Even though people fish out of them and turn them into fishing boats, they seem to have been originally marketed as family runabouts. Thoughts?

Starcraft marine, the current company, makes both fiberglass and aluminum.

http://www.starcraftmarine.com/Why/

(personally, after viewing the current umm, lineup of models, i KNOW why I want to buy a starcraft!)
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

I enjoy being able to smack into stuff with little consequence in my aluminum boats :D

Me too! Where I fish, there is lots of granite formations, and as the water level lowers during summer months, there's a steep learning curve as the granite level rises. Aluminum boats are the material of choice for most of the fishermen in the area. Even going slow, glass takes a real hit, while the metal boats just get a scrape or small dent.

Larry
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

Since I'm getting that this is primarily going to be a pleasure boat with some fishing, just wondering if a pontoon wouldn't be the way to go for you? There are a lot of pontoons out there that can get up and move when equipped with the right motor. Of course it won't handle rough water really well, but I don't see that being your main reason to buy.
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

I have fiberglass boat now and previously had aluminum boats. As said the fiberglass boats tend to be geared more toward pleasure, with the big exception of bass boats. The aluminum boats, I would not necessarily say are only fishing, especially when you consider the older aluminum boats. I had a Starcraft Supersport aluminum and it was an aluminum bowrider like many fiberglass boats and was not set up at all for fishing when i got it. Aluminum boats manufactured in more recent times do tend to be more geared toward fishing, but many still could easily be used as pleasure boats with the simple addition of bow cushions. Some things to consider are features that may not be available. You just don't see to many sun decks on aluminum boats. The aluminum boats tend to be outboards which can be a pain for hauling a big tube around (You can hang a tube off the back of an I/O easily). Lounge seating is not as common in an aluminum boat and they tend to have pedestal seats.

As for Fuel economy? Speed? People/weight capacity? Lifespan?(quality/durability?) here is how I see it:

Fuel economy - Aluminum would probably win here comparing apples to apples, but consider that aluminum is generally outboard fiberglass you may have I/O and it becomes less clear. Now you hae to consider if the oputboard is a newer efficient one, a 4 stroke, or an older 2-stroke. It becomes less clear

Speed - Horsepower for horsepower, the aluminum boat will be lighter, and should therefore have better speed, but again, the aluminum boats are limited in hull design because of having to shape aluminum to form the hull. Not so in f-glass. I would say this pne favors aluminum if talking the same horsepower.

People/weight capacity - I really don't see much difference in this regard on a length for length basis. My 16 foot aluminum was rated for 6 people and so is my 16 foot fiberglass.

Lifespan/quality/durability - These kind of go together and it all depends on how the boat is cared for. The aluminum boats seem to be able to survive more misuse and neglect, but if you take care of any kind of boat it should last indefinitely. Both styles can be damaged, and repaired. It really depends on the specific damage as to which is easier to repair. A hole in the hull of an aluminum boat can usually be repaired totally from the outside unless the substructure of the boat is damaged. A hole in a fiberglass baot might require accessing the inside of the hull which can be a pain and costly. But hey, that's what insurance is for right?

You really need to look at how you want to use the boat and find one that fits. You didn't say if you were looking for new, used, or what age boat. You also didn't say if you wanted turn-key or a project, but making some assumptions for the purposes that you describe, I would probably tend to lean more toward a turn-key fiberglass I/O boat simply because there are so many with the features that would be desireable for your stated purpose. That said, I have the same uses, but with a larger portion devoted to fishing and the aluminum Starcraft I had worked very well for us. I personally wish I would have fixed up the old Starcraft rather than making the switch to Fiberglass. I have a nice boat, but still prefer the aluminum boats. Since you stated that the fishing would be limited, get a pleasure boat. You can fish off of anything, its just easier on a purpose built fishing boat.

Definitely turnkey..... 2000-5000, I'm guessing it would have to be 80's maybe early 90's?
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

Since I'm getting that this is primarily going to be a pleasure boat with some fishing, just wondering if a pontoon wouldn't be the way to go for you? There are a lot of pontoons out there that can get up and move when equipped with the right motor. Of course it won't handle rough water really well, but I don't see that being your main reason to buy.

Yep... I've considered a toon since I'd like to fit some people (another family) on board but here's what I found.... They're certainly available BUT the used prices around here border on ridiculous when compared to same year/shape runabout. The biggest disapointment was when I checked out the toon forum and a guy was talking about top speed..... it was less than impresstive to say the least. He had a 90 horse and could only muster low-mid 20's:eek: (wasn't a huge one 22-24ish). I'm not looking to be the fastest but here's what I'm thinking..... If a 90HP outboard cranking wide open can only achieve 20's full tilt, she'd be sucking gas at a rate that I can't accept! I don't need to fly but pulling tubes all day at 15-20 with this lack of efficiency would probably put a damper on our boating season (too much gas). The tri-toons are very interesting, however, I've yet to see one and I think they're out of my price range. Please correct me if I'm wrong though!!:)
Thoughts?
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

Yep... I've considered a toon since I'd like to fit some people (another family) on board but here's what I found.... They're certainly available BUT the used prices around here border on ridiculous when compared to same year/shape runabout. The biggest disapointment was when I checked out the toon forum and a guy was talking about top speed..... it was less than impresstive to say the least. He had a 90 horse and could only muster low-mid 20's:eek: (wasn't a huge one 22-24ish). I'm not looking to be the fastest but here's what I'm thinking..... If a 90HP outboard cranking wide open can only achieve 20's full tilt, she'd be sucking gas at a rate that I can't accept! I don't need to fly but pulling tubes all day at 15-20 with this lack of efficiency would probably put a damper on our boating season (too much gas). The tri-toons are very interesting, however, I've yet to see one and I think they're out of my price range. Please correct me if I'm wrong though!!:)
Thoughts?

the newer tri toons with 150hp+ ( there is a guy around here in a 25ft+ with a 496Mercruiser in his! 65mph+) but expen$ive
another guy at the marina has a 24ft with a 225hp E-tec that flys.
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

the newer tri toons with 150hp+ ( there is a guy around here in a 25ft+ with a 496Mercruiser in his! 65mph+) but expen$ive
another guy at the marina has a 24ft with a 225hp E-tec that flys.

That is impressive:eek: but I don't want to go over $5000:D
 

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Re: Fiberglass or Aluminum??

you can find a nice boat for $5,000 these days-good luck!
 
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