Ficht Oiling

gpetrilak

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One of my 2003 Evinrude Ficht 250's seized and put a rod thru the block. Engine had 230 hours on it, 65% at 2000 or less. Do a lot of trolling. No alarms before the failure. Dealer showed me the piston and what was left of the rod. The piston looked like it had been in a furnace, top was melted with peices of rigs embeded in it. Skirts were covered with transfered or melted material. BRP provided a new powerhead under warranty, impressed. The local dealer did a lot of Ficht testing for OMC in the early days and has factory trained mechanics and equipment. The rebuilt engine is running fine after 50 hours.<br /><br />The dealer checked and found that we have the latest engine mapping available. I am in the Caribbean and virtually all the 225 / 250's here have had this same problem in less than 300 hours, some do a lot of trolling, others run WOT most of the time. It looks like the piston starts rubbing, transfers metal, overheats and then things go downhill fast.<br /><br />I feel that increasing the oil that is injected would stop this problem but I understand it is computer controlled and can't be changed, except for the double oil flow for the 5 hour breakin. Does the oil flow thru jets to each cylinder which could be opened up a bit ? No EPA emission regs down here.<br /><br />It isn't a stale gas problem as I go thru 50 to 100 gallons a week and tankers bring gas to the island every week. Using XD 50 Evinrude oil and at the rate it is used I am sure the flow is normal.<br /><br />Plugs are replaced or re-gapped every 40 hours with the specified champion plug, QC12PEPA ?, as the center electrodes wear down quickly. Gap goes from 028 to 050 or more in 40 hours.<br /><br />Any ideas to prevent the other engine from failing while I am 40 miles offshore?
 

marinemech

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Re: Ficht Oiling

did your dealer determine cause of failure?(there is always a cause)<br />what other part(s) were replaced with powerhead ie. oil lift pump<br />did you replace oil filters?<br />what cylinder failed?
 

marinemech

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was fuel lift pump inspected/replaced?<br />what about oil distribution manifold
 

gpetrilak

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Re: Ficht Oiling

He felt the cause was the tranfer of metal between the piston and cylinder causing heating of the piston and eventual seizure and not lack of oiling. Other engines that failed had the same symptons.<br /><br />Don't know what else was replaced but his guy is very competent and would have checked everything. He takes it personally when an engine fails.<br /><br />It was the center cylinder on the starboard bank.<br /><br />Filters are changed every 100 hours and he originally installed additional filters before the engines.
 
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DJ

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He felt the cause was the tranfer of metal between the piston and cylinder causing heating of the piston and eventual seizure and not lack of oiling. Other engines that failed had the same symptons.<br />
That is a result, not a cause. Something caused that "transfer". Whether it be a lean condition, overheat, etc.
 

jegervais

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QC12PEPA is NOT the correct plug for that engine. I see you have a question mark after your entry, so I would verify what plug you have in it now. The correct plug is QC12PEP.<br /><br />The QC12PEPA plug does not have the double platinum tip. That may be a contibuting cause of this failure. If it is, what likely happened is that as the gap erroded past .040" it began to misfire and possibly foul. This would cause the fuel charge for that cylinder to not burn (or not completely burn). The excess fuel would wash the lubricant from the cylinder walls. The resulting friction would cause the piston and sleeve to heat up, resulting in all the metal transfer.<br /><br />If you could e-mail me @ duckboats44@earthlink.net with the following info, I'll see if I can't get some additional information that might help with your plug life:<br /><br />-Engine serial numbers (port & starboard)<br />-Boat make, model & length<br />-WOT rpm<br />-What prop (diameter & pitch)?<br />-Are you trolling with both engines, or are you alternating between port/starboard?<br /><br />Hope this helps,<br />-John
 

marinemech

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Re: Ficht Oiling

john from ill. are you in gurrnee?? area? <br />i may know you
 

jegervais

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Re: Ficht Oiling

marinemech,<br /><br />Yup. Shoot me an email at above address...<br /><br />-John
 
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