Flotation foam

Icicle

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This seems a simple question, but googling failed me. Anyone know what year flotation foam started becoming a requirement?
 

jbcurt00

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Re: Flotation foam

Pretty sure it was early - mid 1970's...........


Why?
 
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Icicle

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Re: Flotation foam

Pretty sure it was early - late 1970's...........


Why?

Just doing some learning. 77 century bowrider and I'm using the moisture meter on the stringers with an old screwdriver ground down to a very sharp pointy prober. Everywhere I can access, including the transom is solid and reads 1-6% except the very top of the stringer on the starboard side of the ski locker. It's rotten at about the top 3 inches, for a foot towards the bow and then it's solid up top too. Not wet, just rotten. Was thinking I probably couldn't access the foam without pulling the floor, so thought I'd ask.
 

chriscraft254

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Re: Flotation foam

Early 70's but it was only required in smaller vessels, 20 ft and under.
 

pckeen

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You are sadly correct - you have to take the floor out to get at the foam underneath - but you will also be replacing stringers and probably the transom at the same time - the floor has to come out for that too.
 

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Re: Flotation foam

Just and FYI...Floatation Foam is a MFG requirement only. For BYBB it is NOT required. Highly Recommended but not required!!!:D
 

Icicle

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Re: Flotation foam

You are sadly correct - you have to take the floor out to get at the foam underneath - but you will also be replacing stringers and probably the transom at the same time - the floor has to come out for that too.

Yeah. I know. :(

What I'm really trying to. Figure out is a.) is our boat safe to use

B) after a is decided, keep or sell. Is it worth fixing.

I can grab a picture if necessary, but so far, aside from what I've mentioned above, transom is solid, and stringers (the two I can get to from engine compartment and ski locker) are good except for the horizontal glassed area the motor mounts attach to. What are those called? It's like it's attached to the stringers.
 

jigngrub

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Re: Flotation foam

except for the horizontal glassed area the motor mounts attach to. What are those called? It's like it's attached to the stringers.

It's a motor mount.

If it was my 36 yr. old boat, I would remove the decking and check everything for water intrusion below deck. It's the only way to be certain about the condition of your boat.

Restoring your boat will only cost a small fraction of the price of a brand new boat... and you get a like new boat for the cost of the resto.

Selling your boat and buying a used boat could put you in the same situation you're in now or worse.

If you really like this boat and it has given you good service and fits your needs you'll be money ahead to restore it.
 

Icicle

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It's a motor mount.

If it was my 36 yr. old boat, I would remove the decking and check everything for water intrusion below deck. It's the only way to be certain about the condition of your boat.

Restoring your boat will only cost a small fraction of the price of a brand new boat... and you get a like new boat for the cost of the resto.

Selling your boat and buying a used boat could put you in the same situation you're in now or worse.

If you really like this boat and it has given you good service and fits your needs you'll be money ahead to restore it.

You guys are awesome, and you make this learning process so much less anxiety filled.

So,motor mount boxes are indeed toast. Transom is in good shape, I took core samples and used a moisture meter. Stringers that I can get to are good except for the small piece I mentioned. I pulled some carpet and floor is in very good shape.

In your opinions then, I gather pulling the floor is worth the time?
 

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Lifting the deck is absolutely worth it on any boat over 15 yrs. old with any rot, there's no other way to know what lies below.

After lifting your deck core sample your foam, especially in the keel area. Cores samples between 16-24" apart will tell you if you have saturated foam. The foam can feel dry on top but be completely saturated half way down. If you have saturated foam the odds are high that you also have stringer rot or wet stringers that will never dry out and will rot in short order.

Stringers can appear to be in good shape on top and in certain places but have rot half way down or maybe just rotten or wet spots in them, it just depends on what stage they're in.

The majority of mass produced boats we see come through here have sloppy craftsmanship below deck with stringers being shoddily glassed in and we've seen a few that aren't even completely glassed just tabbed to the hull.

If you restore your boat, the quality of work that will be done will be far superior (even for a newb) to that done in the factory because you'll take the time to do it right and you'll care about what you're doing... and it won't be boat #99 on the assembly line for the day.

If you like working with your hands and don't mind getting dirty for a little while, boat restoring can be very rewarding... and even addictive! We've seen quite a few folks on here say they hope they never have to do this again at the beginning of their project only to see them buy another rotter/junk boat a few months later after they finish their project because the last project was so rewarding.
 

jbcurt00

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Re: Flotation foam

Yep, because it hides so much that you can't see or test..........
 
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